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In a previous post of mine, the one about HF25, @blocktrades left a note implying they had at least 14 devs working on Hive. I decided to ask the more direct question on one of their latest posts.
Obviously 35 devs in an atmosphere like this is a massive accomplishment. Almost sounds too good to be true. I'm not the only one that thinks so.
For those of you who don't know this gem, he's the creator of dTube. A self-important emotionally damaged narcissist with major delusions of persecution and grandeur. I like him.
"Pardon me if I don't shake hands."
So anyway yeah there's a reason why he's got a negative reputation, not that our reputation system is valid in any sense of the word, but you get the idea. But he brings up a good point: you shouldn't just believe what you are told, especially from those in high positions of power.
If I recall correctly @lordbutterfly did a report on his new dTube token. He's doing some interesting things with the tokenomics... check it out: dtube-review-an-interesting-twist-on-the-steem-hive-concept
Would it really have been such a stretch to just, you know, ask for evidence? I guess so. Personally I will not ask for such evidence because I'm already on record as not caring. Even if Hive had no core development for the next ten years and we were "dead in the water", we'd still be fine. The functionality we have today is more than enough for builders to connect to the core and tap into this community and associated high-grade security.
Regulation? Really?
And then he goes on to talk about "regulation", undermining his entire position. These are SELF-REGULATING governance systems. There will be no regulations. We are the country. Hive is the country that makes its own laws. We are a sovereign nation. This is exactly how I was able to stand on the foundation that both the Hive fork and the subsequent Steem fork were not theft.
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Remember when @Blocktrades explained how a fork is not theft and you ate that shit up like it was candy?
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Again, we regulate ourselves, that's the entire point. To say that the laws of some other nation are going to govern Hive shows a complete lack understanding as to where this is going. Be frustrated all you want about how greed ruins everything; being mad doesn't solve anything.
This all takes time. If you think bad actors are in control of too much Hive and they are dumping their bags... then so be it. Coins can only be dumped once, and then that stake goes into the bags of someone more trustworthy. That's how this works. Too much crying. Too many thirsty whiners living in absolute scarcity instead of abundance.
At a certain point, scarcity is just a state of mind, just ask the millionaires and billionaires who, no matter how much they have, never seem to have enough. Even a billionaire can live in scarcity mindset. In fact, the only way to become a billionaire is to do just that, ironically enough.
What we are trying to do here is build strong communities, not strong individuals that sap all the gains they can from the community like the legacy economy. Yeah, sometime the leeches move on in and sell their souls for a quick buck, but given time this space will evolve into something much greater than that, and those who've shown their true colors as the enemy will not be given any kind of power in the new world. Perhaps that's just my idealist take that will never see the light, who knows.
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Heimdanger is an interesting individual. He is obviously a skilled developer and as was pointed out, they are doing some interesting things with their token.
There is obviously bad blood there so it is hard to know who is right versus who is not.
You provided good and fair insight. It is true, where does the regulation aspect come into play with the discussion?
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Nicely stated.
I especially liked:
But this just might make it a tie.
Great read!
But if that dumper has access to an exclusive faucet then that's a very lucrative dump.
Well it takes time to weed off the leeches and while some of them might be proving too smart and hanging on maybe waiting for Favourite prices, I think we're in a long stretch and these it might take time to eventually get hive rid of people who don't feel trustworthy enough to build with it. A project is only as good as people who put effort to build it. A project isn't just automatically good that way and Leo is a testament.
As for regulations I think it'll just be something that lingers for a long time without it actually taking place or happening due to a lot of unlikely parameters that Makes regulations impossible, at least not in the rest part of the world.
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The new world is just the old world's stamp of approval. Anything in between is just cowboy's having fun until the sheriff's consolidate their power. Nothing is new under the sun; even in crypto.
Bold statement, considering the ideals of decentralization and the disruption to power it's designed to create. Of course, your position is a safe one to take. What happens if you're wrong? Everyone wins? Oh no! What a tragedy, lol.
Unfortunately I'm just a pessimist. World history has generally sucked. Crypto isn't going to make the past smell any better then what the fuck-tards in charge have done with this earth. Decentralization is great and I love the idea of it; but you mentioned greed and power. There's people just born that way and they will suck on anyone or anything's teet until they consolidate power and take from others to keep themselves propped up.
I would rather you be right (for the record)
There's also another aspect to it that a lot of people forget about. If you want to be a professional athlete then you have to cheat. You must use performance enhancing drugs because "everyone is doing it" and if you don't you're at a supreme disadvantage.
The economy is the same way. There are plenty of people out there who would very much like to not choose the greedy-as-fuck option, but they feel like they can't do it because again, that would put them at a huge disadvantage.
The systems we are trying to build on flat architecture have an emphasis on reputation. Good acting can now be monetized, allowing the entire system to change.
I am hearing and listening to what you are saying. It's a worthy cause and belief system. I just know from my own family history that you can have your father shot in front of you, your belongings stripped, and made to work in a camp until you die.
That my friend is my reminder that those same bastards who do these terrible things won't sit back and let control get out of their control. Perhaps I'm just in a fucking bad mood because my teenage kids were just told they cannot play outdoor hockey.. for their.. PROTECTION.
This next decade will be riddled with extreme strife. I even want to create a system that makes it x100 times easier to memorize that 12 word seed phrase so crypto can't be stripped from individuals.
That being said the ways of the old world are coming to an end. The powers that be have always maintained that power by cutting off the heads of their opponents. Crypto has no head, and abundance technology can't be contained without making serious concessions.
I could use the optimism.. I truly do. Desperate pieces of shit do desperate things. They erode your 'rights' for their protection. Either way I'll be part of any movement that tries to preserve liberty.
The way to do this securely is better hardware personal use, and better/more user friendly versions of it.
I can think of something cool: You log into HIVE or LEO etc and just use a hardware like a YubiKey, just press a button and you're done. No remembering.
In fact, I believe all the pieces are already in place for something like that.
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Whatever the number is, they’re cranking out code faster and better than Stinc ever did.
For what it’s worth, I met @blocktrades (Dan Notestein) in Bangkok, and he struck me as a stand-up guy.
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This is what most people say in my experience so far.
I'd say he's got a lot more reputation than the entities attacking him.
I met him in Poland and he seems like a decent guy with a surprising amount of enthusiasm in him and what I liked best, is that he is still curious and exploring passions.
I met heimindanger there too. I won't add my impressions on chain.
I'm not completely familiar on the matter, but I will say from previously meeting @blocktrades at SF1 & SF2, he is a stand up person and we wouldn't even be here without his participation back to the early basement days and then when I got apart of the team and we got upgraded above a hardware store! :)
With that said, I do believe when we look at LEO there is a great deal of transparency with the developments. There is a great public face to the developments, LEO even has a face to the leader. People like those sort of things when they are investing.
HIVE on the other hand is not lead by one person/or tight group like LEO. Not that is a bad thing, it just is "what it is".
I actually have no issues that one doesn't want to be a public face, maybe a suggestion is that someone or a small group should step up to be the face -- this would in my mind put a great new direction. If you look at LEO they have nailed this, and there is some great truth in this.
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As long Hive is in a long run better than steem all is fine. I think @blocktrades does a good job on hive. Code comes fast, let's see what future updates bring.
What I would like to see is more programmers are paid from DAO + workingtable. So things can be worked on besides of Blocktrades work. The only thing it should get more monitored by the big stakeholders, not like the netuso one.
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Gotta remember blocktrades has more work than just Hive. 35 people seems reasonable considering that.
Most don't know what he actually does and how long he has been doing it for.
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14? O.o'
I have no idea about that.
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I was absolutely blank about this before though
35 is quite a lot though I must say
Thanks for the knowledge
I'm actually more interested about how to find that information using this mythical search function you are talking about. Walk me through it; how would I have done that? On Google? On Condenser? What keywords would I have used, and what would have been the point of me finding this information? Totally irrelevant information that I didn't need to write the post.
Too lazy to waste time doing pointless shit?
Yep! I sure am!
Reputation is a totally optional feature implemented by opt-in frontends on shit-ass Condenser. Create a frontend that censors all of the old-guard accounts and makes you the God of the Hive network. No one is stopping you.
I'm well aware of your position. So triggered by even the thought of building on Hive that you completely misinterpreted the message? Anyone can create a frontend for Hive and display the information in any way imaginable. That was the point.