We’re actually already talking about Terra’s Anchor

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We’re actually already talking about Terra’s Anchor.

Direct from the desk of Dane Williams.




Here on LeoFinance, the latest nervous narrative surrounding Anchor and UST is nothing new.

The mainstream crypto media is finally jumping on the bandwagon and echoing the market's nerves about Terra (LUNA)’s UST and its reliance on the completely unsustainable Anchor.

Check out this excellent article today from our friends over at the massively popular Decrypt:

After reading this one, it did what all good pieces of writing should do and stirred me up.

I'm outraged!

Haha yep, I couldn’t just flick it by without offering my 2c from a Hive perspective.

So here we are on the blog, digging up some of the older discussion points that we’ve already worked through on LeoFinance and finishing up by calling for HBD to at least be offered a seat at the table.

Anchor yield comes from 3 sources

The question of where does Anchor yield come from, keeps getting asked.

As we’ve already discussed, Anchor’s yield comes from the following 3 sources:

  1. Interest charged to borrowers
  2. Staking rewards earned from borrowers’ collateral
  3. Liquidation fees

You can click the link above and read the previous post discussing Anchor’s yield for more detail on each, but the key point I want to reiterate here is that these 3 sources are highly imbalanced.

This ultimately means that in order for Anchor to be able to pay out its 20% yields as promised, they have to tap into a reserve fund.

Which over the long term is simply not sustainable!

With so much UST tied up in Anchor simply because it offers the best yields, this is horrendously risky for not only Anchor but UST and even LUNA itself.

Whatever you do in articles, just don’t mention the words death spiral!

Anchor yield can’t be maintained long term

Can Anchor yield be maintained long term is another question that we’ve answered and had a healthy discussion around here on LeoFinance.

And I’m sorry, but it just can’t.

With the 3 sources of Anchor yield being completely imbalanced and unable to support a 20% interest rate without running a reserve fund to zero, it is nothing but a marketing gimmick.

Now throw in this entirely VC funded, centralised $1 billion BTC reserve into the mix and it just gets worse.

An algorithmic stablecoin that relies on human intervention to maintain an unsustainable yield?

Lol

Now a decentralised stablecoin backed by closed-VC money?

Yeah, Terra and the crypto media outlets sprucing UST as algorithmic and decentralised are taking us for a ride.

Hive Backed Dollars (HBD) yield is sustainable

So with the mainstream crypto media starting to see the evolution of UST toward centralisation and collateralisation, I'm calling for Hive Backed Dollars (HBD) to receive more air time in the media.

The upgraded 20% APR offered on HBD is a sustainable alternative to Anchor that is changing the algorithmic stablecoin game.

Yet have we heard even a mention of this change anywhere outside of Hive's own community driven, blogging front-ends?

-crickets.

Getting back to the sustainability of HBD, the numbers simply don’t lie.

As has continued to be shown here on LeoFinance, HBD’s 20% yield is sustainable.

Under even the most potentially volatile, future market conditions, you can see that the HIVE inflation increase to maintain the 20% APR is a non-issue.

When you factor in an increase to the Hive haircut rule that is on the cards and the obvious growth that Hive is positioned to achieve, sustainability is not an issue for HBD’s 20% APR in the same way that it is for Terra’s Anchor.

Rest assured, Hive and its truly algorithmic stablecoin will never go down the same path as Terra and sell their soul to VCs for cash.

At this stage, comparing the community born and governed Hive blockchain to the VC-backed Terra is like comparing chalk and cheese.

So why does UST receive the headlines that would be more suited to HBD?

Hive Backed Dollars deserves a seat at the table

UST’s reliance on completely unsustainable, centralised yields from Anchor have meant that the stablecoin is not so decentralised and not so algorithmic.

So I wrap up by asking this simple question.

How can mainstream crypto media outlets like Decrypt continue to run stories about the market getting jittery about Anchor, without mentioning the only truly decentralised algorithmic stablecoin on the market?

There's just no more denying the fact that Hive Backed Dollars (HBD) at least deserves a seat at the table.

Best of probabilities to you.

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Just another coin whose marketing department is better than their economic. Will soon thin out the weak from the strong though

Just another coin whose marketing department is better than their economic

This is true for most projects in cryptosphere. For an example we have see many blockchain social media projects come and die.
!PIZZA

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Few are building, especially on a foundation. The VC money flows and looks for the quick hit.

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!PIZZAIt truly is disappointing to see that many of the biggest projects in cryptosphere has lately been very weakly decentralized or not even that (as in many NFTs on OpenSea). There are still many good silver linings. Axie Infinity has plummeted in DAPP users while @splinterlands has maintained its userbase. True decentralization is fighting back well.

They are not even concerned with decentralization. It is not part of their MO.

It is all about the money and raising funding. This is whore time.

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!PIZZAThis is one thing I love about people like Charles Hoskinson and former Steemit developers who are now working on https://koinos.io You should check their Discord and some of the interviews. Their heart is in the right place.

VC money allows for a lot of shortcuts. This is the problem long term though.

With HBD, we are developing something with a foundation, that is not dependent upon either marketing or outside funding.

For us, it comes down to use cases which will roll into the network effect.

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It's not what you know, it's who you know!

;)

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I also agree that Terra isn't sustainable. I don't think all the collateral behind it is going to last that long when they need to keep paying out that yield. Just wondering, but how much interest does Terra charge on their loans?

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The idea is to make the stablecoin the collateral. Not back it with something else, pushing the value there.

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Go to Anchor and go through the process of taking one out.

Actually a really good blog idea to clearly answer that question.

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I'll get around to it eventually but I don't have a Terra Wallet yet. I have mainly been sticking to BSC and Polygon because of Cub

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#HBD deserves to sit among the top 10 stable coins, but the lack of liquidity is what's disabling us from going big.

Without VCs and HFs that can singlehandedly provide enormous liquidity, things tend to be slower.

Crypto media outlets are nothing but a payed promotion services that has nothing to do with objective research.

Nontheless, #HBD will get its place sooner or later.

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the lack of liquidity is what's disabling us from going big.

That is true but that is improving each day. We are seeing more getting into the pHBD-USDC pool along with more flowing into our accounts that have it in savings.

Give it a few months and I imagine we will be in a much different place.

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Yep, I totally agree.

And as task has already said, the LeoFinance team via the pHBD:USDC LP on Polygon are stepping up to solve the liquidity problem.

Sooner or later...

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Hbd does deserve a seat at the high table. It's just a matter of time and organic growth for us to take the world by storm.

Hive has a lot to offer and Hbd is a meeting point to get more people in, as time goes on, I believe we'll get the recognition we deserve.

We'll see how they will hold their position by end of the year.

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Right now, better off flying under the radar. No reason to stir things up until we have our ducks in a row.

Polycub is providing a solid service. We just need a bunch of other things to roll out.

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Sustainable, organic growth.

We're on the right path and I'm also looking forward to seeing where we end up in the not too distant future.

Things are going to come to a head and we will get noticed.

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Hey man, saw your post in ListNerds...Apologies for not being out there in the comments more the past few days...Just been handling some offline crap but plan to be much more engaging.

I'll slap myself lol

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plan to be much more engaging.

Welcome to the party pal.

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I'll forgive you this time Jon...

I know you're a busy man ;)

But in all seriousness, your team over at CTP is killing it, so just keep doing what you're doing.

See you around!

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it seems to me that hive gets ignored a lot. I can’t explain why though.
$HBD is my retirement fund

$HBD is my retirement fund

It certainly can be. We just have to keep pushing for more use cases. Getting a payment system using HBD is crucial.

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I am thinking of accepting HBD for photoshoots. There is a few potential customers here in Vienna.

Because it's not what you know, it's who you know.

Hive is a community run project decentralised to the point that it lacks a leadership face and single direction.

Terra is a VC-backed project led by one man in Do Kwon.

They have leadership and a single direction.

In the short term they will always progress faster and that's exactly what we're seeing.

But they can't buy decentralisation.

Hive is all about the long game.

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Hey man, another great one from you.
It just happened I was on the UST topic again as well :)

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Do you guys coordinate your posts?

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Haha no, we don't coordinate our posts.

I'm just a big fan of dalz's work! ;)

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I was going to ask about outfits next to see if you coordinated them.

And yes it is easy to be a fan of @dalz work. He is a good one.

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Thanks task!

An algorithmic stablecoin that relies on human intervention to maintain an unsustainable yield?

Lol

This is why I'm not in support of backing HBD with BTC or anything else. We need a robust and decentralized system that is not dependent on some other cryptocurrency outside of HIVE's control (not to mention a dramatic one with very little technological progress) and especially not something that is based around human intervention. Terra's version is of backing UST with BTC is epitome of fixing something that isn't even broken.
!PIZZA
!LUV

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I agree with you although I think the idea of backing HBD with some BTC as insurance was meant to be human free. I am not sure that is technically possible.

That said, I believe we need to focus upon making HBD the collateral, not backing it with collateral. That is the difference.

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I agree with you although I think the idea of backing HBD with some BTC as insurance was meant to be human free.

I believe it involved some multi signature account. I didn't follow all the details. These things adds complexity and larger attack vector even if it becomes completely based on smart contracts. A simple and efficient system with maximum decentralization is best. Currently there is nothing that can compete with HBD when you look for a simple decentralized algorithmic stablecoin. I like to stick with the KISS Principle :-)
!PIZZA

As I said on numerous occasions, could be a great investment for Hive to have $1 million in BTC. However, ultimately, we want to build the value of HBD through development of use cases. Then it can stand on its own as collateral.

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I recently spoke somewhat positively about Hive's proposed BTC insurance solution for HBD.

But the more I think about it, the more I agree with you that it's simply not worth it.

While it's just insurance, there is so many bad connotations that come with centralising supposedly decentralised protocols.

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KISS Principle is very underrated.


!PIZZA

Hopefully, the liquidity pool will help to give HBD the attention it deserves.

!hivebits

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At least we hope that it provides the liquidity to allow people to get large amounts of the HBD.

The attention can be generated elsewhere.

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Khal and the LeoFinance team making things happen for Hive.

So good :)

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I honestly believe Hive being ahead of the game is kinda the problem lol! Whenever I try to onboard people in Iraq and explain just few of the things happening here they tell me that I am "Naive for believing that"

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Onboarding and complexity are still an issue. However, we are working on both of them.

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Tell them that they don't have to trust you because they can verify it themselves using the on-chain data.

There is no need for trust and certainly no need for anyone to be naive with the existence of the publicly accessible, truly decentralised, censorship-resistant Hive blockchain.

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Certainly HBD is sustainable. You are right, the numbers do not lie. The only challenge is going to be developing use cases. This will be the subject of another article of mine.

Either way, we are building things slowly, with a solid foundation.

The @p-hbd holdings in savings now has crossed 100K HBD. This is in a little over a week.

All of this is coming together nicely. Ultimately, if we build out properly, we can get the collateral game going, which opens up amazing possibilities.

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Your HBD related content has been quality lately, Task.

Keep up the great work and linking back when you talk about a previous point in a future article.

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I am doing my best. I am trying to link to as much HBD content as I can. Linked the Hive Backed Dollar Guide you wrote a few times.

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I have a bit of money invested in Luna, but not too much. I have more invested in HBD. Sounds like that is the smarter place to continue to place any money I want to invest like that!

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If you're not playing with amounts that mean HBD's lack of liquidity is an issue, then I'd much rather be in HBD than UST.

For larger amounts, the risk:reward is all relative ;)

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Yeah, no, I doubt I will ever be that big of a player. For now what I am moving around seems to be working out fairly well.

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Will there be a rugpull on UST?? Many people hope they will get out before it gets into trouble...

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The risk is not so much a classic rugpull.

Rather a death spiral if Anchor's unsustainable yield causes a truckload of conversions from UST back to LUNA alongside a falling price.

Everything is new, we just have to wait and see how things play out live.

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Thanks, im keeping an eye on it for sure!

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Thanks for the breakdown. Seems to a lot more thought went into the creation of HBD than UST... Even with all their income streams, I don't see it lasting long without VC support.

You think the 20% APR would be sustainable even if we go to a few billion HBD in circulation as opposed to a few million right now?

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I certainly appreciate information like this. I am still not sure I understood it all but the only way I can learn is through posts like yours. Thanks.

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Just keep soaking it all in :)

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