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RE: @jrcornel Being Flagged to Zero!

in LeoFinance4 years ago

You can call those witnesses and others who may have sided with Justin Sun many things, but "evil" is not one of them. Evil acts of hostile takeover that put the chain and the user assets at risk were done only by Justin Sun and Ned. When the hostile take over of the chain governance happened, initially there were only JS sock puppet witnesses at top 20.

Those who sided with JS and joined him, did so after the fact. Their reasons may vary. Perhaps some saw a financial opportunity, perhaps some saw an opportunity to influence the direction network should move, perhaps some saw it as retaliation to past conflicts. Doesn't matter. All happened after the fact. And there were very few witnesses that chose to do so. Even today, I believe majority of top Steem witnesses are JS witnesses.

Decentralized systems are all inclusive. You many have participants who actually prefer centralization, and participants with wide variety of points of view and opinions.

Anyway, my point is the topic of this post really has nothing to do with Steem/Hive drama, and downvotes should not be used based on that.

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Evil acts of hostile takeover that put the chain and the user assets at risk were done only by Justin Sun and Ned.

No. The Korean community that became the witnesses sat on the fence until they found a way to take it over completely for themselves. They are not innocents in this.

Those who sided with JS and joined him, did so after the fact.

This in untrue.

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What I meant was initial attack was done by JS alone. Those who chose to support the actions did so afterwards. Perhaps you are right, maybe if KR community votes instead supported community witnesses JS hostile takeover would have failed. But we don't know that for sure. That scammer has many resources and connections. I think he would be able to takeover even without KR community support.

Moreover, we may not agree with the votes cast by KR community at that time, but that doesn't negate the fact that those votes still were legitimate votes. People can vote in anyway they want. The only illegal votes were done by JS, because those stakes were not meant to participate in governance.

I share your thoughts, and wish KR community sided with the overall community. In that regard they might have failed the community. At the same time, from a different point of view, one may conclude that overall community failed KR community.

Decentralizations allows presence of opposing views and participation in governance with stake based votes. Every stakeholder had a right to vote whichever way they choose. Only votes that were illegal are JS stakes bought from Ned, and the votes by exchanges using user funds.

You can call those witnesses and others who may have sided with Justin Sun many things, but "evil" is not one of them.

Guess consenting to fork out user funds is not evil in your eyes. A kind reminder that only @blockbrothers walked out with a clear conscience and immediatley lost support from JSun.

Revisionist history indeed.

Anyway, my point is the topic of this post really has nothing to do with Steem/Hive drama, and downvotes should not be used based on that.

Early benefactors of @ned's bs need to go as well. All of them. Eventually.

It didn't matter who witnesses were. Stealing people's funds was ultimately an act of one person. Only one person had the power to do so and that one person had enough sock puppets witnesses running. So there was no need for anybody else to support him. Just the fact of 2 or 3 witnesses supporting, only gave a lame excuse of saying "this is a community decision". You give too much credit to those witnesses. By doing so, you may qualify this theft as a group effort. There was no group effort. Only Justin Sun stole and wanted it look like a group/community effort.

Again, this history is irrelevant to the current topic.

Keep up with the mental gymnastics.

Ned's relics will be retired one way or another.