Your definition given is supplant, which means to supersede (another) especially by force or treachery. Treachery is behavior that deceives or is not loyal to someone who trusts you.
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Your definition given is supplant, which means to supersede (another) especially by force or treachery. Treachery is behavior that deceives or is not loyal to someone who trusts you.
Oh... That's... interesting.
So, this was very different from the "Jacob" I knew, so I did a small research on the Islamic Narrative (which I grew up with) and compared it with the Christian Narrative (which I just quick-searched up,) and wow~ totally different stories!
Islamics come from Abraham and Jesus is clear he is before Abraham when questioned by the pharisees. I am curious, who does the Quran say is God's son as mentioned in Proverbs 30 3-4?
Can you give me the Quranic text you're mentioning, just so we're on the same page?
I cannot, as I do not read or speak Arabic.
I thought you were referring to an English translation of the Quran, but I realized now that "Proverbs 30" is referring to the Bible.
No problem~
Hard to follow something that is not 100% accurate in my native language.
I can't fault you for that.
The Qur'an in Arabic is 100% consistent with itself in that God has no Son.
Then the Bible Old and New Testament are considered to be lies or is it something else?
The Bible, Old Testament and New Testament are considered corrupted in Islam.
We believe that there was an original message. Good people practiced it. That Satan has tempted people to change it over time. Then Muhammad (peace be upon him) brought the Qur'an which claims to be the original message, and it claims to stay free from corruption.
I won't debate you if that's true or not, nor I'll debate you whether the Qur'an is "preserved" as we claim or not. Just what we believe.
I have heard that before but the New Testament is older than the Quran and currently there are over 5,000 known manuscripts (pre-printing copies of a text) of the New Testament in the original Greek language.
Yeah, New Testament should be around 600 years older than the Qur'an. The Old Testament should be much older. But it's historically proven to be changing with time. (Just look at comparison between New Testament scripts from different centuries.)
Jesus spoke Aramiac, and the oldest Bible manuscript we have is in Greek, I believe, (I may be wrong,) so that alone may raise questions about how accurate it is, compared to what Jesus told his people.
Qur'an was revealed with stories that we as Muslims believe to be the "correct" unchanged versions, that should've been in the first Bible. But who knows? I believe Islam is true, because of my life experiences, so I believe the Islamic version of stories to be more accurate.