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RE: LeoThread 2025-01-05 19:32

in LeoFinance5 days ago

Trying to onboard some normies today from work.

Let’s just say, we’ve got a long way to go. We tried using google. signing up for a new hive account.

They basically gave up lol

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and i don’t think they gave up because it didn’t work. It was more…

why do i need to download keys and how come there’s no app.

that’s pretty much why they may never come on chain.

I recall Khal saying that he didn't want an app because that introduces centralization to the environment. This is a principle which I truly understand... but could there be a way to develop a decentralized version of such an app?

yeah it's just how the majority of people use things on their phones though. i get it, and understand why there is no app....but for everyday people, ease of use is what matters.

the answer for no app is because apps are censored by the companies that run the app stores.

They want someone else to handle their keys ?

they dont care about keys....first thing they asked was....how do i turn keys into a password.

interesting. well this will change as Apple, Microsoft etc... are getting rid of passwords and replacing with passkeys.
As this becomes more normal things will change.

oh it makes total sense to me man. i love self custody of my social stuff. but you know how the general population works...

keep it simple. lol

yeah the masses want someone to call if they mess things up.
this has always been the crypto issue, which is why Coinbase is so popular.

The tech will get built at some point.

I always get he no app question too

Actually, they do not need the keys, that is the point of lite account, they can just sign in with the gmail and they will not need keys unless you are trying to onboard them to other Hive dapps, which you are not, you are bringing them only to Inleo.

They don't even need the keys to do any exchange because all you do is send the Hive with a memo to the exchange account.

And for the app part, they can have de version of the site that gets saved as an icon on the phone, but I do thing having an app for the normies would be helpful

well for whatever reason, didn't work for me. they used my referral code and everything. gotta remember the people i'm talking to right now...

crypto noob. normie. doesnt know what keystore is, whatnot. they have tiktok and instagram.

they just tried to sign up, and they got their account keys and now they cant log in. I'm sure it's user error, but what i'm saying is that it didnt work as smooth as i had hoped for.

Yeah, the sign up needs more specific messages so everyone goes to the one that is actually best for them

I see it like this:

Keystore: crypto savvy (remind them to save the seed and the keys)

Gmail or X: Normie (don´t even talk about the keys)

Create a Hive account: the occasional user that gets attracted to the concept of Hive and will be using other Hive dapps right away

Yes!!!!!

Exactly.

Keystore - crypto people

Gmail / X - normies

Hive account.....If they wanna lose their mind LOL

Hahahah yes, Hive account is the worse, because then you actually have no manage each key. You have to use Hivesigner or keychain, or be constantly copy pasting...

A not very known fact: you can use the keystore seed phrase to import your account into keychain

I just screenshot this ✅

Yeah referrals are a bit complicated for the people trying to join, specially if they know nothing about crypto and the blockchain. We need a detailed and simple guide for people trying to sign-up, with images and step-by-step instructions

Nice big infographic type buttons to lead the way!

it’s definitely not for everyone.

I do think a phone app like ecency for Leo would help immensely, and I get why web is a priority and I think it should be but I hope we are getting closer to a phone app because with short form text and video stable, that’s the missing link for 80% of the people I know

yeah it was not fun at all. i was sitting in front of her while she was trying to figure it out. time and again she kept asking, isn't there an app for this...

half my friends are office normies and that’s the reaction.

The others are artists and they want to live in the trees without technology lol

So I’m trying to build my own work up before I take onboarding too seriously

yeah that's how i'm feeling. i literally was sitting in the same room, explaining to them how to work it all.

  1. they didnt get it at all. it was so foreign to them

  2. they didn't even get registered as my referral LOL

I'll just promote LEO like I do, not too concerned about the affiliate side of things.

did you try having them get a keystore account instead of a Hive / keychain account ???

So they want centralized control. Got it

they dont even know what keystore is. why would they need something else to get an account here?

yeah they dont care about 'centralized' at all.

millions of people dont either lol

That's just an 'us' thing here in crypto.

most people are drained and don’t have enough energy to learn new things or even know how to learn new things. If they have a little energy leftover after work/school they pick the things they are most interested in, not revolution 😝 that comes once they’ve realized how drained they are

true.

I made it! Thanks to you! @Jongo!

i think an App would make everything seamless and easy for die hard Web2 users to come to Web3.

Plus, this platform is already so great and awesome,

I don't know how building and app works, maybe it's too expensive and require so much, but that leap of faith would start a revolution.