Remember the evils happen on this planet, not because of God.....'An enemy has done this'.
I do think Catholics put a huge amount of faith into a man. Francis is just a dude. He can't save us.
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Remember the evils happen on this planet, not because of God.....'An enemy has done this'.
I do think Catholics put a huge amount of faith into a man. Francis is just a dude. He can't save us.
The Pope isn't the savior of Catholics. He's just the head of the Church. Christ is the savior.
I'm not saying the Pope is wrong. I just think he gives too much emphasis to the dignity of immigrants and less compassion to the people harmed by trafficking, which also includes the immigrants.
While we have an obligation to provide succor to those in need, it's a bit of a stretch that people only suddenly had a need after traversing several countries and crossing one particular border. They pay thousands of dollars to be smuggled across that one border. How is this poverty? When I think of poverty, it's a person without two pennies to rub together.
I think some responsibility for the indignity of deportation ought to be placed on the deported as well.
That's the fundamental difference between Protestants and Catholics right there...
The head of the church to us, is Christ. Not a man.
It seems that with all the Christian denominations who all think they have the right interpretation and authority nobody is really in charge. I don't imagine Jesus would be too impressed at how fractured His followers are over wildly different interpretations of His teachings.
100% agree.
So you just have to go to the bible and see what characteristics the church has in these days
revelation 12:17 lays it out. and then reference that to revelation 19:10 for more clarity :)
ta da!!!!
I think we can agree that you can't just take a verse in the Bible, particularly one with as much symbolism as Revelations, at face value. It's important to read the entire chapter in context.
The dragon, Satan, is enraged at the woman, the Church (or Mary), and wages war on heaven, before being cast down. Woman takes refuge in the wilderness. Dragon declares war against the faithful.
The catholic, meaning "universal", interpretation is that Satan wages war on ALL the faithful. It is a timeless struggle between good and evil, which began in Heaven and is now taking place on earth in which all Christians are participants.
It was 2 verses ;)
Agreed except Mary has nothing to do with it. It's the church for sure.
But what are the characteristics.....The church follows the commandments of God (all 10 including the Sabbath) and has the spirit of Prophecy (testimony of Jesus re: Rev 19:10)
So the last day church follows all ten commandments and has a big focus on prophecy aka the study of Daniel (the little book mentioned in Revelation)
Oh man, I'm just getting started :)
Context: After the downfall of Babylon, there is great rejoicing. The marriage of the Lamb and his Bride is announced. John drops to worship the angel, but he is instructed to only worship God. The Heavens open up and Christ appears to judge and make war. After defeating kings, commanders, and warriors, Christ goes to war against "the beast" and false prophet. They are cast into a lake of fire.
The Catholic takeaway of that verse is that we only worship God.
Now what does the KJV say?
That's biblical gymnastics, adding things that aren't there. The angel states, the testimony of Christ is the spirit of prophecy. So that means, prophecy plays a big part of last day events and Jesus is pretty clear, we need to take prophecy to heart.
Who the 'beast' is, sure is a fun study :)
Apropos of Revelations, many elements and themes present in the Catholic experience are based on Revelations.
Mass is not just a remembrance but a participation in the eternal liturgy described in Revelation, where heaven and earth are united in worship of God through Christ. We live Revelations every Mass in liturgy and symbolism.
Gotta hand it to Catholics, you guys sure come up with stuff that is nowhere to be found in scripture lol
I don't know what to tell you. It's plain as day. No contorting is needed. No secret handshakes or hidden meanings.
During Mass, the faithful are briefly participating in the eternal liturgy of Heaven (duh, eternal, right?). Christ is present with us. You don't have to believe it. Just understand that Mass is our temporary connection to Heaven. Mass is a central part of the Catholic experience, with some parishes even having Mass twice a day. It's not just a Sunday thing. If you can't make it to Sunday service, you can attend Saturday service, or Monday. Each time, it is largely following Revelations and, of course, the example of The Last Supper.