Moving funds between Hive and Hive Engine doesn't have to be expensive or complicated.
HIVE <-> SWAP.HIVE Bridges
There may come a time in your life where you want to move some funds you've earned on Hive over to Hive Engine to get some tokens like LEO. For me, LEO is one of the most solid buys there is right now at about 8 cents. I was talking to someone in the Leo Discord earlier about different methods to move between the Hive and Hive Engine.
Someone mentioned that @deathwing has a service called Swaps, and I even remember reading about it. My normal route to get from HBD or HIVE to SWAP.HIVE has been via BeeSwap lately, but there is currently no liquidity between HIVE and SWAP.HIVE. I've been using BeeSwap for quite some time and have never had a liquidity issue between these tokens before...
I've always chosen BeeSwap because it's easy and the conversion fee is only 0.25%. I don't typically move large amounts of funds around so the fees are miniscule regardless of which route I take, but I still try to use the cheapest route because it adds up. When I saw that there was no liquidity there, I started thinking about other options.
Hive Engine Deposit
The first option I considered was just depositing straight into Hive Engine via the Wallet page. I've done it this way in the past, and it used to be about 1% fee. It has been lowered to 0.75%, which is the highest I've seen in terms of depositing funds into Hive Engine. The advantage here is that you can deposit a plethora of different assets, from different blockchains even.
Not the best route for HIVE <-> SWAP.HIVE though, because there's much cheaper options. I would only use this method as a last resort, or if I was trying to deposit assets like Bitcoin onto Hive Engine. Otherwise, I'm going to opt for the cheaper option just like anyone else would.
I'm not saying to not use this method to get your funds to Hive Engine, I'm just saying there's options that are literally 3 times cheaper in terms of fees. No one likes fees.
LeoDex
LeoDex works similarly to the way depositing on Hive Engine works, but the fee is only 0.25%. I've never used it to deposit HIVE, but I did check and there seems to be yet another lack of liquidity. You're not going to be able to move much funds through this deposit service.
LeoDex is an awesome platform, and I opt to use it for trading Hive Engine tokens when BeeSwap doesn't have liquidity for tokens I'm trading. I also use it when I want to place limit orders instead of just doing direct swaps. I'm lazy. Swaps are always my go to. I know, I'm not getting the best deal all the time but it's all about the simplicity for me.
HivePay
I had never used HivePay before today honestly. I knew the service existed, I just always used BeeSwap. HivePay not only has this swap service, but also provides tools for businesses to accept HIVE and Hive Engine tokens for commerce. I did discover that it seems to be the absolute cheapest way to convery HIVE <-> SWAP.HIVE though.
The interface is as simple as it gets too, which is great because you don't want to over-complicate this kind of thing people may be doing on a daily basis.. The only issue I can see with using HivePay for this is the lack of liquidity. Makes me wonder where all the HIVE is going from these services. Maybe they're in the pHIVE-POLYCUB pool on POLYCUB lol.
I highly recommend going to HivePay first when you're looking to do a conversion. If the liquidity is there to cover your needs, then you're going to pay the lowest possible fee at 0.2%.
Swaps by Deathwing
Swaps is yet another amazing service created by @deathwing. It allows for instant swaps between HIVE <-> SWAP.HIVE and acts as an aggregator. It checks prices on LeoDex and Beeswap to get you the best deal on your conversion. If Swaps has enough funds, it will execute the swap itself without checking other sources.
I have always been a huge fan of aggregators, so finding out about this service is really cool. I've used a number of services created by deathwing and never had an issue. I'm not sure what kind of fee there is for using the service, but I believe it's about 0.3%. There's also a couple new features coming according to the latest Swaps update which are very exciting.
It seems to have a decent amount of liquidity itself, and if not it uses other sources or instantly issues a refund. Great service, and you should absolutely vote for him as a Hive witness.
Conclusion
These are the easiest and cheapest ways from what I've found to bridge HIVE <-> Hive engine. If you know of a better one or something that should be on the list, please let me know. Which method do you use?
Thanks for reading! Much love.
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Yeah, I have been having to use Tribaldex and eat the .75% in and 1% out. Sucks, not sure why Beeswap can't keep liquidity in there. I wish they would because it's a awesome alternative to Hive Engine or Tribaldex.
LeoDex has had that issue for a long time now, pretty much stopped using it entirely.
Try out HivePay or Swaps! Used HivePay earlier and that 0.2% fee is nice.
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I will check it out
Thanks for sharing. Right on time because today I wanted to read more about the Hive!!!
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Cool info mate.
Well, I have been using BeeSwap so far and pretty much satisfied with it. Didn't know about Swaps before. But anyway good job done by @deathwing.
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Only issue with BeeSwap right now is liquidity.
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I see
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Swaps had the same problem, there was no liquidity for the whole day, I had to withdraw funds through the engine.
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Never heard of Swaps but I'm going to check it out, too.
Mostly I use LeoDex and BeeSwap for low fees. Swaps will be my third option 🔥
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Swaps is pretty nice. Really anything built by deathwing is solid.
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I use hivepay and Leodex often, retty good bridges and information you have given us here.
Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for your support!
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I used tribaldex mostly. Now I will use hivepay.
Never been a big fan of tribaldex. I just don't like the interface.
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@l337m45732 Best bridge for hbd to hbd.swap?
Hive-Engine or TribalDEX are the only ones I know of. 0.75% fee. What I do is, use HBD to buy HIVE on internal market. Then use HivePay or one of the others mentioned in the post to get SWAP.HIVE.
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I use hive-engine. Now I can try Hivepay, it has so many tools. I heard that this website let's you convert HBD to Hive without having to wait 3.5 days. I'm not sure if this is correct !
Hivepay doesn't do HIVE <-> HBD, but Blocktrades does https://www.blocktrades.us/en/trade
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Oh thank you, i shall look into it !
I've seen hivepay and not used it, but I've never heard of swaps. When I realized there was no liquidity on beeswap again I used tribaldex.
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HivePay is my favorite right now. That 0.2% fee is nice.
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0.2%! I guess I've found a new swap 😁
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It's the cheapest I've seen
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Apparently, you were offended by beeswap) the gas fee is not the lowest, but they make payouts and with the airdrop of their BXT coin, I think it turns out very cheap.
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I love BeeSwap. There was just no liquidity.
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Thank you for sharing this. I use Tribaldex, but it is good to know about all the alternatives, some cheaper as I can see.
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Shoutout to the CTP lads for HivePay SWAP - The cheapest way to deposit HIVE into Hive-Engine.
There isn't a lot of liquidity, but it should be your first point of call when you're making a swap.
Sorry LeoDex, you've gotta get more competitive!
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I agree! HivePay is awesome. People need to know there's always another option though.
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Ohhh wow! That exchange called swaps I've never heard of it, it's time to test how fast it is and what the rate is.
It gives me some peace of mind that the person who created it is a Hive blockchain witneses.
Yeah I've used a number of deathwing's services and have yet to be disappointed.
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Good to know.
Hello, I have a question.
Do you know users who have the service to transfer phbd, phive and psps as well as leofinance bridge.
You can bridge those assets on https://wleo.io/
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Yes, for the moment this is the bridge I am using, but I am looking for other alternatives, I hope we don't only have this one from leo.
It's the only bridge for pHIVE, pSPS, pHBD, and pLEO. These are all assets that launched via PolyCUB, which is run by the LeoFinance team.
Don't wanna use the bridge? You can just swap MATIC or USDC for the assets you want on SushiSwap or Paraswap.
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