He's a switched-on dude - ~~~ embed:1587972883506151424 - twitter metadata:bmF5aWJidWtlbGV8fGh0dHBzOi8vdHdpdHRlci5jb20vbmF5aWJidWtlbGUvc3RhdHVzLzE1ODc5NzI4ODM1MDYxNTE0MjQgLXw= ~~~
ES definitely on the shortlist now.
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He doesn’t sounds like a leader of a country, he comes over like a realist, was a good interview (passed the sniff test)