Still, you're right, people do dig in and it's not always for nothing.
It's never for nothing. It's how we learn and grow. By airing stuff, talking about it etc
It is painful and uncomfortable though. I think it brings stuff up for everyone personally and it's why we so often avoid it. But... it's really the only way to find common ground and a way we can work and stick together.
I've just been burning the midnight oil again as well. I need to slow the fuck down to a roar for a day or so. I get grumpy when I'm tired. Can you tell?
Sure, these situations make people vulnerable. Fights and arguments never really have a winner or loser unless you're watching a prize fight or a movie. Always boils down to two opposing forces fighting their way out of the one thing they have in common: the situation they find themselves in.
It's an opportunity to build character.
It's their show though. Their ring. I don't feel like paying for a seat.
I prefer to say conversations.
If we can set ourselves aside a bit more they would be conversations.
Thing is... when conflict enters the equation people's old wounds can be touched and then things become complicated.
Denial. Projection. Very difficult to navigate.
Or detachment. Aversion. Craving. We practice not getting stuck into these and it's far simpler to negotiate, understand each other and compromise.
It's quite amazing how often we have the same goals anyway. Just different approaches to achieving them!
I'm busy making some joy. I hope.
So I was thinking (and sometimes this is a good thing and sometimes this isn't a good thing :D )
Why not have a front end that doesn't show votes or earnings??
This might help us remember how to be individuals and not follow the pack. It'd also encourage authenticity because people won't simply vomit up stuff they know will be acceptable and upvoted.
And they won't avoid having the hard conversations that get ignored mostly.
See?
Authentic free speech because human ego is removed 👌🏻
Send thoughts :)
[Edited] They still earn but a lump sum once a month or fortnite so they don't know what posts earned and what didn't. Truth and authenticity. But can see downvotes so content can be monitored by the community.
Nothing is stopping anyone from building that. However, you can't tell all these other frontends to become that. You'd need your own token for that payment system to work.
Here's an example of a frontend on Hive that doesn't display downvotes or use downvotes for its token, and ditched the rep system.
https://www.vybrainium.com/trending
Can even see my post still "trending" there.
I know that :) I'm all into personal sovereignty y'know! Honest!
Have a post pending on just this topic :D
Thanks for the heads up. Keen to visit and try!
For years, people have been free to build suitable solutions to their problems here and then tie their product into Hive’s broader consumer base to enjoy the benefits. However, their product must be self-sustainable in order to succeed. It might be difficult to attract interest in a token that represents only a few superficial variances and personal preferences, stemming from an instance of Hive platform politics.
History somewhat proves that and I shared an example above. People who don't want downvotes had absolutely no interest in a downvote free platform once it came to fruition. And it's not the first time.
A solid tokenized community that wants to be successful tied into Hive would depend on exclusive content attractive to an already well established market combined with a mass of consumers willing to stake tokens in order to support it. It can be bent and shaped into whatever they want but their success is their own responsibility.
Well... that's what freedom and personal sovereignity is all about :)
"I'll do it myself" is my go to these days. I don't have an infinity ring so no need to panic.
I still don't get the tokens tbh. Haven't taken the time to look at that properly.
So I'm understanding a bit more now. Thanks for that.
Perhaps one of the front ends could simply add an option for users to hide earnings and votes. For themsleves. Of course. Wonder how that would pan out.
I just try not to focus on them. But, at times, it's distracting.
As a creative, if you've put days of work into something and it doesn't get much attention or earn it can be disheartening. Better not to know, I think.
Just let that go and keep on making.
Perhaps earnings only showing if a post receives over 50 Hive might be better. Or 100.
Anyway. Lots on my plate here. I'm trying to change the world in other areas and numbers aren't my Forte.
I just wish we weren't so swayed by da money. It seems to cause more trouble than it's worth. Literally :D
When it comes to anything superficial, sweeping it under the rug won't help. Superficial types will find something else to look at.
When I post, I look at my view count on PeakD, which doesn't cover all the views but you can look at how many are using each frontend then calculate in your head a rough estimate. When those views are down, I try to come back with something bigger because I think it's my fault. Not going to blame the ground I stand on for the reason my feet ache.
Superficial nonsense is partially contributing to some of the drama here. People don't see dude as a human, they see him as a "whale." Creating distance and making it easier to diss him. Nearly all stakeholders here are dehumanized or dehumanize themselves when they look at their wallets then try to tell others they're small and insignificant for instance.
It's messed up but sweeping it under the rug won't change anything. Maybe make a MIRROR token and everyone can have a look.
Don't shoot me. That last part was a joke.
Presumably because the majority went on as usual and they didn't stand ground and walk through the fire of the possible shift
Change takes an inordinate amount of time. People resist it like the plague. Even if they hate their current situation. They'd rather avoid the fear of not knowing for a bit and be uncomfortable.
Aren't we humans interesting creatures?
Bring back the Stoics!
Off to sleep now. Brb :)
One guy was excessively self voting his comments and got downvoted. Threw a fit over a few bucks and refused to make money the easy way by using that stake to vote for others instead. Had no interest in playing fair. So he chose to leave to the promised land. A place with no downvotes. Making sure to burn all his bridges.
Took his money with him and lost nearly all of it. Downvoted himself harder than anyone could.
The things that make you go, "Hmmmm."