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RE: Remove content rewards from base layer? /Yea or Nay?

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When people say "content creators" they have in mind creators that create what is considered high quality content on a continuous basis as a job part time or full time.

I disagree, when I hear content creator I think just that. Anyone who creates content regardless of the income they receive from doing so. I haven't interacted with many who put an earning threshold on who is or who isn't a content creator.

If you want to look at Hive as a click and pay site, well, that kind of ties into me calling Hive content rewards as a crypto faucet with a twist.

I wasn't comparing HIVE directly to click2pay sites. I was making the point that the blogging section of HIVE can carve its nitch within the userbase that like to earn online as did many other industries. Aside from the examples I already mentioned some more are Fiverr and Upwork. Both respected sites that many use daily to earn a handful of dollars. The earning HIVE for blogging is what drawn many of us here in the first place and imo is HIVE's greatest onboarding tool.

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I disagree, when I hear content creator I think just that.

In that case we dont really need rewards at all. Which again just shortens the path to L2. hehe.
But if we want high quality stuff people will create on a continuous basis they need to get paid. Quality takes time. It takes incentive. Or they will go to where they can be.

My wife is probably the best musician that ever posted on Steemit. She doesnt make music here anymore on Hive. You know why? Because its simply not worth the effort needed.

She would rather post her music elsewhere, where there is a chance to earn something significant while earning nothing right now, then post here on Hive for a few dollars without there ever being any chance to earn something significant.
Most quality content creators think the same way.

In that case we dont really need rewards at all. Which again just shortens the path to L2. hehe.

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I'll play along; If by, we don't need rewards at all, you mean content creators than I can agree. Content creators sometimes create for the love of doing so or because it gives them an escape from everyday life. Thus my point that an earning threshold doesn't dictate if someone is a content creator or not. If instead you mean we as in the Hive Blog Community, I would disagree as its the model that the current user-base of hive signed up for. Changing it, changes what Hive Blog is at its core. To do so would be the same as sticking a big WEB2 sticker on HIVE's non-existing face. Web 2 tokens would help the transition and keep us away from being WEB2 but I commented on how that might go in my opening reply to our conversation.

But if we want high quality stuff people will create on a continuous basis they need to get paid. Quality takes time. It takes incentive. Or they will go to where they can be.

I can agree with this to an extent. There is multi routes to finding quality content creators. If one is trying to attract those who are already massively successful than you would be correct but if instead we focus on finding exceptional content creators that are just starting out the lure of getting them to post on HIVE won't be as costly. I would argue that there are some benefits to the current HIVE Blog that work in favor of early content creators such as earning instantly, youtube does not provide that. Youtube requires at least 1000 followers an X hours of watch-time before they consider any content creator as an earner.

My wife is probably the best musician that ever posted on Steemit. She doesnt make music here anymore on Hive. You know why? Because its simply not worth the effort needed.

She would rather post her music elsewhere, where there is a chance to earn something significant while earning nothing right now, then post here on Hive for a few dollars without there ever being any chance to earn something significant.
Most quality content creators think the same way.

I understand and get all that and it goes back to my point of finding new quality content creators vs already established ones. The other rebuttal I see to this is that with music its not frowned upon to repost the same music lyrics or music video on multiple platforms. So even if one is earning more elsewhere, earning something extra for linking work already created is an option.