Early this morning, I saw an announcement post from @ecency. The platform introduced new upgrades to their web app that re-introduced the deck feature. In addition to that, the team also released a new micro blogging feature called "waves".
I have been a heavy Leothreads user since the launch in 2022. I was excited to test out the new Ecency service that was released to compare the likability, features and interoperability. I tested out the features.
I will come back to the features later. First, let me share what my initial reaction to the news was
I did not like the idea.
The very first thought of having yet another micro blogging platform on Hive was uneasy for me.
I already used d.buzz and figured they are not easy to use with their current limitations. I am a fan of their User Interface but I do not like the way the micro blogging is implemented.
With “waves” I assumed the users will be divided into two different camps. We have a limited pool of users and having many micro blogging platforms could hinder the development.
I sat on with the same idea for a while and I figured I was wrong. I will tell you why
Leothreads is clocking 1.2 K users so far. That is the best number that the platform posted after the weekend battle. I am not sure about what the total MAU for Ecency is but it cannot be more than 10K.
The long-term vision of Leothreads is to bring in more than 5K new users and generate higher engagements. There is no way Leothreads will get that many new users if they do not tap on users from outside of existing Hive front ends. Hoarding on existing users is never the solution to this classic problem Hive faced since the inception.
However, this internal competition in building the best microblogging platform is good in terms of development as Leothreads needs to be on its toes to rolling out features and fixing existing bugs. It is also confirming the approach Leofinance took on how to approach short form content. Ecency took the same multi comments container approach to implement the new “waves”.
I still had doubts and I asked Khal to clarify. He shared his views on the @cryptomaniacs show in the afternoon.
TLDR, Khal thinks there is a scaling issue “waves” has not yet thought about. The UI is a front-end cosmetic and the team still needs to think how to scale the background infrastructure if there are many more users i.e., more than 10K.
What are the cool features on “waves”?
Despite the acuall discussion around the infrastructure, there are a couple of cool features I found on “waves” that should be brought to leo threads.
Auto- refresh
I think this is a really cool feature and is a soul of microblogging. Ecency implements this really well on the deck UI. There is no issue in indexing micro blogs from D Buzz and Leo threads. If you sit idle on the screen for few mins, the UI automatically notifies you if there is a new content.
I would like this to be brought over.
Notifications
The notification center is the biggest advantage Ecency has over leo threads UI. All the sorting and filtering feature we want on leo UI is implemented on waves. But all these functionalities are on the ecency front ends. Leo UI’s notification is getting better but is not up to the mark yet.
Would I use Ecency waves?
I would not use it exclusively. The deck feature is the just the home page revamp. The UI implementation is sleek but it has not changed anything when it comes to treating the comments. Clicking on waves will take you to the comment feature of ecency UI.
Leothreads on the other hand is a microblogging UI on its own right. That’s the prime feature. I would rather use twitter like Leothreads over tweet deck like ecency deck feature.
Did you try ecency waves? What do you think?
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Thanks for sharing your experience! This is initial version and with iteration we will improve it. As for scaling, we don’t have that issue, leo apparently has, right after release people reported their content didn’t show up on threads when they posted from Ecency, apparently it took 5-10 minutes to show up in some cases.
Lolll.
What does it tell us, Ecency?
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Not much. It means the deck is a cool front page to go into Ecency infrastructure to interact.
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The scaling you are talking about is different from what I was referring to in the post. Scaling the infrastructure to handle a massive number of short form content. Not sure what you are referring to when you said leo has the scaling issue.
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Sorry probably we lost each other there. Good if they have scaling solutions, of course any improvement on either apps end up being great for entire platform. I was referring comments made by few community members about their threads not appearing instantly or taking long time to show up or sometimes not showing up on leothreads, still trying to understand where and what people are experiencing. Regardless, we will listen to that hangout to learn what was exact reference about scaling, do you have link for that btw? Thanks
I am excited now to test this as I haven’t gotten around to testing yet. Maybe that would have given me a much idea on some of the features you talk about.
My initial thoughts when I saw this news over at threads was that, ecency is copying Leo threads and I wasn’t fully happy because it’ll take away some of the importance of what Khal is trying to build. Leo threads is meant for us to use Leo UI and if we can comment fine now from other front ends and still have them indexed on Leo threads, I am not too happy with that.
Fortunately, I was on the show as well and hearing Khal speak about this means both Leo and ecency still have a long way to go to perfect their microblogging experience. We’ve seen a few of the big fixes already and the change in the publishing editor has got me excited. I can post with my phone now 🙂.
Leo threads is a separate UI altogether. Indexing short form content on many front ends is good but it would have been easier if leothreads was the UI to be displayed on all Hive front ends.
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Well I feel that Hive on it's own keeps evolving with these new microblogging platforms. Both Leo threads and Ecency waves still have a ways to go to be able to exemplify that Twitter feel. But it's a start. So your plan is to remain exclusive on Threads?
I think so. Waves has just started. I interacted with the platform. Anything you do on deck, you need to go back to the main ecency front end. Commenting on threads will take you to the Ecency front end.
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That will have to be worked on then because I don't think a lot of people would enjoy being redirected to the frontend each time they want to reply to a comment. Anyways there are still developments so we'll just have to wait it out right?
I think Leothreads is much ahead in terms of plans on how to take forward this micro blogging platform. Ecency has a huge baggage of the mobile application and the other front end. I expect the Leo team to at least try to bring more new users in.
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That's true... hopefully they work on that and I guess we'll all be happy in the end.
P.S: You alright, you didn't leave a joke.🙃
ha ha that's funny. Even my posts are just the extension of threads. i am too serious on my posts :D
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Okay, but at least for my sake, maybe you could try to be less serious in the comment, drop your usual pun or sarcasm maybe?😁
Interesting. I didn't even know about it. Don't see my following making "Waves" so another product tucked in the corner?
Social network. Keyword: network
Needs to be connected.
Try it out. Share what you think of it :)
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I'm a PeakD drinker. Eccency is cool, I just don't use it, since there was never really a need to switch.
Okay. That makes sense. I thought it was cool at first. Used it for a while and realized it was just a new home page.
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