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RE: LeoThread 2024-02-03 20:35

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Seems I offended some green candle people when I said Hive-engine is not Hive.
If you want to have a real conversation on what makes something a "hive game"
I have always been here.
I have run games on Hive. I printed the 1st NFT's with the Steem-engine smart contract (outside of SPL). long before Hive-engine.

I am well versed on this topic from the developer side and always open to chatting.
I wish all projects good luck but let's be honest about what they are.

All I asked for is to make sure new people realize the difference but I guess it affected someones green candle dreams.

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Saying HE is Hive is like claiming Lightning is the Bitcoin network. It isnt.

HE does post some custom JSONs to Hive, that is about it other than using Hive as its authentication system.

exactly.
that is why I get sick of HE games being called Hive games.
Look back at my history this has been my point always.
Plus I would argue the custom_jsons they post are meaningless. They should just stick with Hive for authentication and talk about how valuable that is for projects.

That would bring more value to the chain than the DB of nothing custom_json thing they have going on.

Hive authentication is very valuable, just ask any network admin who had to run that stuff. I hear it can be a nightmare.

Yeah well people really do not understand the most basic of platforms, networks, or what any of this is. That is why you never hear much talk of taking on Amazon, Uber, or other digital platforms who grasp that stuff.

The answer always seems more users and better quality content.

agreed.
I could go on about this all day, but things to build.

LOL yes well it sounds like, from what you said a last week, you were going on about it on Twitter and it wasnt well received there.

I am still learning the ropes but I understand one thing,a strong community and creative content drives growth.For this is a plus and will remain so.

Hive is just Hive, and everything else is everything else. But most think everything (built) on top of Hive is Hive too. Glad one of us understands. !BBH

Your Content Is Awesome so I just sent 1 $BBH(5/20)@simplegame! (Bitcoin Backed Hive) to your account on behalf of @pepetoken.

As long as you are speaking the truth :-)

And that made me curious and hope you could elaborate more about it.

The truth is, even after a few years here, I used to think that HE was decentralized until I read some time ago that it wasn't.

Hive-engine is a side-chain
it has its own consensus
it has its own databases
It writes some custon_json's to the Hive Layer 1 but everything else is done on its servers.

for the longest time is was 100% centralized and myself and others get saying this.
then they started to run some nodes for processing transactions.
The nature of those nodes and what is and isn't on a centralized database is still not clear. (maybe it is now but i have not looked in quite awhile. I have washed my hands of their project)

VSC and what we are building will actually settle on Hive layer 1 in human readable form. So it is more Hive than something running on a side-chain.

Feel free to use what you want but our goal has always been to educate people on the difference.

Yeah, it was a surprise for me to learn some months ago that it was centralized. I did see some Hive users running their own HE nodes.

Good to hear that VSC is being built on Layer 1.

VSC is built on top of Hive as a true Layer 2. not a side-chain like HE.

Oh, okay. Thanks for the correction. Is VSC the first one to do that?

For smart contracts yes.
after that it gets kind of technical of exactly how each dapp uses the chain.
There is no standard and each dapp does it differently.

Okay, thank you. I did read that VSC is the first to bring smart contracts to Hive. Hope more apps will follow.

Our whole life is a game! :)