I was looking at this sign in the room similar to signs I have read in a hundred rooms over the last twenty years and wonder, is it still needed? Is there anywhere in the world where smoking in hotels is permitted still? At least, I don't think in any of the places I have travelled lately. Of course, just because it isn't permitted doesn't mean that people aren't going to smoke in the room, but for those who will smoke in a room anyway, is the sign going to stop them?
Probably not.
There are lots of rules and laws like this, with another that comes to mind the smacking of children, which used to be commonplace when I was a kid, and I don't think I was ever injured by it. Sure, I get that beating children isn't acceptable, but I don't think that having a law that says "no smacking of children" is going to stop a person from beating a child - it is a completely different event, and the mindset and reasoning behind it is very different also.
Another is for murder, where as far as I know, every country on earth has some kind of "don't murder" laws, yet the estimate is about 6.1 murders per 100,000 people, so around 500,000 annually. While it seems that laws are there to keep us safe, for those who are going to break the law anyway, they aren't going to worry if there is a law or not.
Suicide is illegal in most countries too.
The laws that countries employ aren't to keep us safe as much as they are to control our activities in order to keep the governments that employ them safe. Sure, there are some that make sense like "don't kill neighbors" perhaps, but for the most part, the laws are largely economic, aren't they? They are around taxes and property, around military and trade. They aren't made for the daily user.
Where are the laws that state that a government has to work in the best interest of the health of its people?
These kinds of laws seem more of an afterthought, token gestures that make it look like the government is there for us, but really don't do much of anything. For instance, in Finland there has been a huge amount of time in government spent on the strength of alcohol that can be sold in supermarkets, as if that is the biggest concern for health in the country. At the same time as this, they are cutting back on healthcare in other areas that affect the entire population.
I am an adult - I can decide when and what I drink.
In the US for instance, a person has to be 21 to drink alcohol, yet they only need to be 18 to vote, or be in the military and go to another country and kill people. Doesn't anyone find it strange that they are considered too immature to decide what liquids they put into their own bodies, but mature enough to choose governance, or kill in the name of their country?
I find it strange.
Societies and communities need rules to function well and part of the reason humans have been able to evolve so well and innovate is because we have been able to develop common frameworks that allow us to work together. However, we have fractured our communities and have instead aligned at national levels, as if people within a nation all want the same outcomes and reached in the same way. It just doesn't work at scale, which we can see in the global political climate. The rules of countries are no longer serving the global communities that have formed across borders, yet governments will keep protecting themselves through the laws they can create and enact, or inflict, upon its people.
It is a broken system.
Because all systems break. Because all systems are designed for a certain set of conditions and when those conditions change, which is inevitable, the system is no longer suitable to manage it. We see this happening at all levels of the system, whether it be social, governance, or economic structures, and the longer it is in place trying to operate in conditions that no longer exist, the more rapid the collapse of the systems, and the more damage they do to those that are meant to benefit from the organization.
What we can see now in the world is what happens when rather than health, monetary wealth is the guiding force of decision making. When the incentive is to generate money as if it is an indicator of success, inevitably the people are going to suffer, because they are not money, they are tools to generate it only. This means that the people that should benefit, end up suffering at the hands of the system, and due to the laws of economics, the alignment will keep aligning more closely to the incentive driver, which will continually refine tools, and crush down resource costs - humans.
There is not a lot of love in the air of law.
Well - maybe the love of money.
Taraz
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I'd think they need to be more concerned with vaping these days. That's pretty rampant everywhere. I work in a place that is supposed to be a smoke free campus and while I have never seen someone smoking, there are always plenty of spent cigarettes on the ground in the parking lot. Which technically is against the rules as well, but people don't care and if no one polices it, what's the point.
I get the sense that in the long run, we will find out that vaping is just as bad, if not worse. This sign actually included vapes in small print.
Oh, okay. I agree with you. They have already had some cases of damage to lungs and stuff due to the heated chemicals I think.
Reminds me of that famous quote my mom used to tell me when I was a kid: "Wealth is Health!"
Oh wait, that wasn't my mom, it was big government!
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Or die there....I have a major issue with this, but nobody over here cares what this fatman has to say. LOL
I agree, most laws are meant to control people, period.
Or die... Sad, isn't it?
Yes very much so.
The world is full of rules that contribute to the control of the animal within us. The absurdity of it all is that laws and regulations were made to apply to the majority, but there is a minority who wipe their asses with them, and they are precisely the ones who impose them.
The minority is the best of us, and the worst of us. Generally two separate groups though.
There may be millions of laws, but man will never stop being an idiot, right now we are about to start a third world war or maybe it has already started and we are blind after so much development, so much technological progress, nothing has changed, the strongest always wants to step on the weakest.
This made me laugh
Humans are very hard to control, and most people believe laws are made to be broken, sadly.
People also know exactly what they are doing, they just choose to do whatever pleases them.
Everyone wants to do what they want, but want others controlled.
Where I live there are red stop signs.
That doesn't stop anyone from slowing down, it's more of a challenge of who goes faster.
I think the laws are there to "try to keep the balance" otherwise we would be like the old west.
(Technically it is the old west in politics with so many rats who can barely read).
Laws are there to maintain balance in a crazier, psychopathic world I think.
The trouble is, the "balance" is only for the 99% - so the other 1% can be extreme.
That’s sign cracked me up😂😂😂😂.
That’s the first time time I’m seeing that😂
I believe that the law cannot stop people from doing unacceptable things. Even the lawmakers cannot follow what is supposed to be the right and wise thing to do. They are supposed to serve people, facilitate, and help those in need. Because of money, humans have become so cruel and selfish.
It’s a broken system and I feel It’s just a figurehead because no matter what kind of law you make or the government makes, the people will still do what exactly they want. Imagine the people who go to the hotel to smoke after they have read it clearly that smoking is not allowed in the hotel and smoking is not good for their health but that doesn’t mean they’re going to stop. Also, use the child as an example, you know if I decided to spank my child in my house, no one is going to know so at the end of the day people still do what they like. There are so many kids not up to 21years but drink whatever alcohol they like in the presence of their parents who were supposed to prevent them from taking those substances into their body, which means that people are not following the laws of the governments and it’s impossible government penetrate into normal people or what they consume
I am very sure that the governments also know that the majority of the people are not following those laws, but I do not think there is more that they can do to that
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This is just to show us that the fact that there are laws does not mean we are going to follow them even though people know the repercussions or the kind of punishments they deserve for disobeying the laws. And it is not like the government agents can come into our houses or wherever we go to know what we are doing.
On the long run, we all are just doing what we wish to do.
Laws often just scratch the surface, true change needs more than rules, it requires mindset shifts. This is facts brother. period #BEER #HUG
It so incredibly true that societal and governmental priorities are often misplaced, like focusing on minor regulations while neglecting broader health and well-being. The inconsistency between legal drinking age and the age for voting or military service in the US is a glaring example of this disconnect. Ultimately, real change requires shifts in mindset and culture, not just more rules.
But what do I know I'm just a public citizen in the United States surrounded by a ton people who could care less or live in an echo chamber of what they believe.
For the smoking sign, I think it could be for tourists who still smoke in hotels in their country. Additionally, it can be for the hotel's benefit as well. At checkout, if they find out that the person staying there smoked, they can charge extra for the cleaning costs. So while it might not stop those that will smoke anyways, they can protect themselves by having repercussions if the person staying there did.
Now as for laws, I think the big purpose is to deter most people from doing it. Sure it won't stop those that really want to do it, but informing law abiding citizens what they can't do still works. We can see its effectivity in Singapore. A lot of Chinese tourists like to spit. They can do it, but they will get a fine in Singapore. Same goes for smokers and bubblegum users, and other prohibited things. The government can't really stop all people from doing them, but if they catch them, there will be a fine.
Well not all rules/law should be adhered too. You got to do something different, break a law to be different. Think out of the box. I think the box in most context is the law. What's important is to be smart even when u got to break the law