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You are missing the point. Splinterlands is successful not because of hive the blockchain but because Agg and Matt created a killer product, have amazing vision and under estimated the amount of success and volume SPL would eventually have. Not to mention seeing value in the Hive community and capitalizing on the community, in a fair way. Yes the freemium structure, as Agg now puts it, has helped SPL but the isolated nature of the Hive blockchain is now holding SPL back, in my opinion.

What you are saying is exactly what I try to point out. As we all can see SPL is successful, however it is a standalone success story (or one of the few), and this is not prove at all that Hive as a base layer is working. I don't know what the work behind SPL was, and dont claim to understand, but your reasoning makes 100% sense. Hive is not a trash blockchain technically, wonderful things can be build on it, but it's economically broken (and most likely lacks application building support). As you point out they had to do a lot of groundwork. I get you man.

Also if I am not mistaken SPL was steemmonsters in the past. If so their killer product is basically NFTs, which is as we know is a mega killer product. I get you man, and you get it too.

It's unfortunate as I see you trying to give your view, you're being attacked by a large stake holder in the ecosystem. It would be much more wise of him (and most of the Hive community) to convert their defensive stance into actual listening. That's the start of true change, listening.

Is there an attack by a large whale in the ecosystem on me? I dont know maybe they have me muted. I know that there is one whale in particular that everyone is afraid of that I dont mind starting conversations with. But typically its a nah nah nah boo boo response or I eat what I like response. And people wonder why the flagging whales are called little trust fund kids... but maybe just Justin Sun trolling with Ned.

Lol. I think you are missing the point, it is a symbiotic relationship and without the community backing, the product would have very likely struggled to make an impact. Literally, tens of millions of dollars from Hive directly have been poured into the game in various ways and that is highly unlikely to have happened if they had built elsewhere. At the time, Steem was pretty much the only blockchain (or forks of Steem) that would be able to handle what they did...

How are cryptokitties going btw?

So all these new Spl accounts being created and new users were from the Hive ecosystem?

This has nothing to do with how Splinterlands came to attract them in the first place, does it?

It has everything to do with a product that is attracting the money and users and not the blockchain. SPL for sure would have equal success on any other blockchain in todays environment. In 2018, no you are right, the options were limited. My argument is that Hive is stagnate and not contributing to any of SPL recent parabolic success. Agg is simply a brilliant sales man who teamed up with a brilliant dev who could help create his dream project. Hive blockchain was just a vessel, a well designed one albeit, but not responsible for SPL success.

SPL for sure would have equal success on any other blockchain in todays environment.

It wasn't created in today's environment and, it would have to also compete in today's environment. Success is never guaranteed in business, specially startup gaming and blockchain business.

My argument is that Hive is stagnate and not contributing to any of SPL recent parabolic success.

I think there is still plenty coming in through Hive. I don't know what you hold there, but I have only been in Splinterlands for four months.

Hive blockchain was just a vessel, a well designed one albeit, but not responsible for SPL success.

Anyone who doesn't point to the community as a large part of the success of SL, is fooling themselves. It was the initial investment, the ongoing support, the PoC, the mass needed to attract additional investors... You really should go back and dig it up.

Are you really implying that The millions of dollars pouring into splinterlands is not from outside investors and users from other blockchains and simply the existing Hive user base with their their bots?

Millions of dollars now are coming from outside - but without the millions from inside and the community support at the beginning, the new investors would have no Splinterlands to invest into.

This is the way businesses are built - they don't go global at the start, they are built at a local level with local community support.

Do you really not understand this?

I do not think millions was necessarily poured into it through the community before the ICO funding periods. Maybe I am wrong. But def tons of community involvement by highly talented people worldwide who made lots of sacrifices to get the project up and going.

Since it is mostly on chain, perhaps you should go back and look at what happened. Also, have a look at the the top holders of cards and the like.