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RE: Salary disparity?

in LeoFinance3 years ago

Female dominated industries are paid less than male ones.

But, a male nurse earns the same as a female nurse (all experience/studies equal). This is what needs to be considered also.

Then if we look at how work is structured women will retire with less because of child rearing now the argument is "why should I pay someone not here" why isn't it. How do we continue to support someone while they raise children.

In Finland, they get a year of full paid leave and then it scales back a bit. Also, it is parental leave, not maternity, so men are more commonly taking half of that time themselves. Where there is a difference here is a chance to be promoted, however it only accounts for a couple percent in salary according to my wife, if that. Perhaps the problem is in Australia and other countries more than some.

The outlook is leading middle class and upper middle class families to not have as many children which are vital for the success of EVERY company and industries success into the future.

Unless you factor in immigration.

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Few things there, male - female same sector assessment can't be used as the "gender pay assessment". That's a common used assessment to denounce gender pay.

If we look at the community services and health sector as a whole it is paid less because it tends to have more women. Let's apply it to say labourers which earn decent cash for no skills or educational debt. But in that instance but in that instance people tend to value physical labour greater than emotional.

I would say though that in itself is inequality because as you raised with sports women can't just walk into a physically demanding role so many that pay based on physical demand women are locked out of.

An article was published here in Aus a few weeks ago that the business sector complained about working from home and how "hall way chats" don't occur so they can't promote workers that align with their work culture. Let's be honest when they talk about work culture wolf of wall St comes to mind.

I'll end with you're in Finland, Finland is leading in alot of these things and I won't even get started on how men are treated differently who are primary carers. I work and spend most my time raising the kids due to my wife being in a leadership role and the way I'm treated compared to women parents is totally different.

People's outlook is still outdated.

If we look at the community services and health sector as a whole it is paid less because it tends to have more women.

I don't think this is the reason - it is because it isn't valued very highly by society, unfortunately. OnlyFans has more women also, that doesn't mean they get paid less than the men there.

You use physical strength jobs, which is a good example of no perfect fit. While men on average will be more suited, many many will not be able to do those jobs either. There will be some women who could do the job, but percentage wise out of the female population, it is likely lower. This is why "pay for the job performed" should be the go to condition for salary.

Let's be honest when they talk about work culture wolf of wall St comes to mind.

What do you mean?

What I do now is that workplaces have to hire based on whether someone will fit in with their culture and who can collaborate these days, otherwise the unit doesn't perform well for the most part.

People's outlook is still outdated.

Yes it is, but the outdated view is being promoted by these headline articles that do not actually consider nuance. Nuance is dead in public discourse, which is why all arguments are polarized and no one is allowed to be in the center and even-handed, because they get attacked by both extremes.

Work culture in many sectors are not appropriate places for women just look at the data. In Australia Canberra (parliament house) is becoming known as a rape dungeon with many cases of sexual harassment and rape emerging.

Sports sector, business sector. What is work culture? I've worked in many places and am aware perhaps things are different in Finland.

You nailed it right there. "Not valued as much" why? How can saving a life not be valued more? Everyone valued nurses through the pandemic.

There is even data to suggest when men join an industry wages climb also.

Again though hard to gauge when I live in a different country and Finland is doing some great things.

In Australia Canberra (parliament house) is becoming known as a rape dungeon with many cases of sexual harassment and rape emerging.

But, is this actually the case, or is it just getting a lot of publicity on the back of a couple situations?

You nailed it right there. "Not valued as much" why? How can saving a life not be valued more? Everyone valued nurses through the pandemic.

Because society values money. People didn't mind trillions going to pharma companies to offer vaccines, but why not divert some of that to the nurses who administer them? Maybe Pharma should contribute.

It is the same in the finance sector - the best mathematicians aren't working on solving clean energy, they are creating algorithms to increase investment profits. This is the world.

Yes, and you just nailed the inequality part of it lol 😆 no health = no money.

Wouldn't say top mathematicians are working to address clean energy. I can't speak for Finland but in Victoria I was apart of the movement for the VRET and we worked with.... underpaid uni professors to achieve it.

I did say top - there are plenty of mathmeticiams working on it - but there are some crazy smart people on wall street, with the only aim to maximize wealth. They have been doing it for 4 decades now.

Earn more and pay less tax.