What are your tools of the trade?

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Some time in the summer, I bought a Trezor that I still haven't set up, but will get around to it one day soon-ish, perhaps once I have an office of a kind to sit in, rather than just on the couch. A few years ago, I also grabbed a Ledger Nano S, but have been mighty underwhelmed by it and find it quite ridiculous, considering it has something like 160kb storage, meaning it can only hold a couple token apps at any one time - considering how cheap storage is in this world today, this is stupid. I hope the Trezor is a bit handier. If it isn't, I will blame @meesterboom for his recommendation.

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You know how sometimes you find a note in you pocket and you are happy? I knew that I have a little of something on the Ledger, but I was unsure if it was Ethereum or Bitcoin, as I remember transferring some out to buy some shit token a while ago. To my surprise, I actually had a bit of both on there, which is nice and, it is worth a fair bit more than it was when I transferred it in. While not much in the grand scheme of things, it is definitely better than a kick in the sensitives and more than I have ever found in my pocket.

This reminds me that I have to do a little bit of a crypto stocktake, as over the years I have used various wallets and exchanges and probably have little bits of stuff everywhere that I can scrounge together and perhaps buy a Lamborghini, or more likely, an old Lada. I don't know if other people are as careless as this with some of their crypto, but I assume that I am not the only one who could do with some better management habits.

It got me thinking about 2017 though and if you remember the stories, people who had "once upon a time" mined BTC or had their keys on a hard-drive somewhere, were suddenly very interested in finding it again. Does anyone remember the story of the guy who got permission to scour a rubbish dump for an old drive to find his lost Bitcoin? I have heard that about 20% of the Bitcoin supply is locked away and inaccessible - that is going to be stuff of immutable legends one day.

While I am not going to be retiring any time soon with my holdings, I do think that I have collected enough that the potential is there to be significant in the future and perhaps even get me to that magical point where things are "comfortable" for my family. But, with my wife only a crypto enthusiast as far as she hopes what I hold will go to the moon so we can pay off debts, I am going to have to delegate future management to my brother, in the case of my untimely (potentially timely) demise. This won't be easy with it spread all over the internet, hence the coming stocktake.

What I am secretly hoping for but quite certain isn't going to happen, is that I bought some cheap-ass token once upon a time, forgot about it and now it is 100x up. That would be a pleasant surprise for sure, since most of what I have bought back then is about 99% down. While hoping, I am not getting my hopes up.

While I have the ledger to set up, I should do some research into what is a good way to keep track of everything. I have head some people talk about Blockfolio, but haven't tried it - worth it? I actually don't spend that much time looking at the markets and I get zero notifications on movements, which is great for my nerves, but terrible as I have missed some corker moves.

Back in the day, I used to have more time in the evenings and would see the spikes for trade potential happen, but now I can barely scratch myself, so have let things slide in this respect, concentrating my time on content and comments rather than trading, as there is the added value of doing something that is good for my mind in the writing - where as the trading is bad for my stomach. I think that if I did spend the same time trading as I do on Hive, I would likely earn more over time per hour, but it wouldn't be anywhere near as fun.

I asked a question the other day in a post that pretty much no one answered, but I was wondering what tokens people hold that they actually use for something, directly. It seems that besides staking or trading, most don't really do much - whereas on Hive the token is intertwined into the gamification of the ecosystem and can be used in numerous ways to affect experience, for better or worse. In some ways, this is actually worse, because unlike Bitcoin where people do not feel guilty trading it, Hive comes with some social pressure and transparency - while you have no idea how much Bitcoin I have - you do have a pretty good idea about how much Hive. Spoiler alert, The value of my Hive is more than the value of my Bitcoin - How much difference is unknown - until stocktake, but I assume it is significant.

Anyway - I have been painting for 13 hours straight today and will head to bed so that I can do more of the same tomorrow - but if you want to answer a couple questions to give me something to read in the morning, here is a list.

  1. What cryptos do you hold and actually use?
  2. What is your favourite crypto tracking tool?
  3. Do you use a Ledger, Trezor or a software wallet?
  4. Have you ever found "surprise crypto" you forgot you had?

Taraz
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1: I lost all my crypto in a boating accident.
2: I don't care about day to day moves, it's just noise.
3: No, I don't trust them. My big ones are on physical medium and buried far away. (Steem is still my recovery account, that's how far.)
4: The Hunt airdrop was pretty great. That netted me some ETH, to play around with DEC and LEO uniswap pools. Hoping Blurt moons at some point too.

I lost all mine too. I just live in crypto imagination now.

I gut screwed on HUNT, had something like 200K - gone.

I flew under the radar at around 85K, but yeah they made it real difficult there; and a heap of guys just got zeroed for defying JS.

I did my crypto stocktake not so long ago. I had a surprising amount scattered about. You have reminded me, I need to check my ledger and see what's in the shitty little thing!

I am hoping for a bit of luck with it... There are a lot of shot coins to catalogue, some most be worth something!!

Yeah I sometime go I joint beluga airdrop and had forgotten about them until recently I open my changed and found that they worth a lot

It is nice when it goes that way. For a long time, I havent wanted to look as every time I open a wallet, everything is worth less :D

Oh those kinds of tools of the trade. I got nothing XP All the cryptos I've played around with were on socnet cryptos and all of them except hive have stalled or died.

I don't think it's a secret hope anymore XD

Have fun with the stocktake, it sounds like about as much fun as normal stocktake XP

I worked at McDonald's and once had to count the salt and pepper sachets....

Not many of the SocNet tokens survive. Probably too many SocKpuppets without real activity :D

That is actually important to know but would have been a pretty tedious job made worse by the fact you actually need to concentrate on it XD

Narrative and Hyperspace seemed to have crumbled under some kind of regulatory pressure (too hard or expensive to meet or something, don't really remember and probably didn't really understand anyway), I don't remember what happened with Akasha, I think they were changing up the way they were doing things or maybe something in my computer configuration was suddenly not right for it because I remember it stopped syncing one day and I was too lazy busy/preoccupied with other things to think about seeing if I could fix it. I don't know how many users were real and how many were sockpuppets xD

I'm not counting hive and steem forks as I am way too lazy to look into things that are too similar and don't seem to be different enough so I have no idea how any of them are going

Here's one of my first pots back three years ago.
I was giving some feedback on Cointracking
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Thanks mate, will check it out!

But, with my wife only a crypto enthusiast as far as she hopes what I hold will go to the moon so we can pay off debts, I am going to have to delegate future management to my brother, in the case of my untimely (potentially timely) demise. This won't be easy with it spread all over the internet, hence the coming stocktake.

It's good to have someone like that to manage things for you if you are incapacitated or dead.

What cryptos do you hold and actually use?

Tokens on Hive, obviously.

What is your favourite crypto tracking tool?

I prefer to keep so simple that I there isn't much tracking to do. By minimizing cognitive load you minimize your potential for fuckups.

Do you use a Ledger, Trezor or a software wallet?

Confidential. But I have tried Ledger Nano and was mighty underwhelmed. The instability of the firmware convinced me not to store any funds on that device.

Have you ever found "surprise crypto" you forgot you had?

No. But I did have a Bitcoin paper wallet many, many years ago I thought was illegible and beyond rescue because it was crumpled but the mobile wallet in my old mobile phone was able to read the QR code after all.

Tokens on Hive, obviously.

I have never used a paper wallet. I am not sure if it is safer or riskier for me.
Pretty much all anyone seems to say :D

It was the early days and I had a bit of BTC in a web wallet. I decided to make a paper wallet as a backup, which I'm glad I did because I later lost the password to the web wallet. I just scanned the QR code and transferred the coins to safety. :)

A paper wallet is not the best of ideas if it's not password protected.

  1. I hold BTC and ETH. I use HIVE and SIM.
  2. Zerion for ETH based tokens. My excel sheet for others.
  3. I use Atomic wallet, Metamask and Ledger Nano S.
  4. I am too young for that I guess

I am sorry this is not exactly a reading paragraph but this is what I came up with. Have a good reading :P

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what does SIM do?

I don't mind reading bullet points - though, they aren't great for storytelling :D

I agree.
SIM tokens are tokens for dCity games. The income generated from this game is paid out on SIM and HIVE. I collect SIM everyday based on multiple variables applied in the game. My strategy is to cash out 50% of SIM income for other investments (INDEX, LEO) and reinvest the other 50% SIM in the game. You should check out the game. It's fun.

I don't game anymore, even if there is the chance to earn. Too risky for an addict ;D

I use cointracking.info, there are many things you can do with it, even with the free account, but I only keep track of my holdings and the place I keep them.
On top of their webApp, they also have a mobile App so you can easily keep track of the value of your portfolio as well as other detailed info.

I will check it out to see if it is good for me. I am looking for something pretty simple.

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I have a little bit of surprise crypto that I should probably take out and put in my Ledger wallet. I was very dismayed that the Nano S had such a speck of storage lol I just set mine up last night again and transferred some crypto to it for the first time! It was scary as hell.. Completely worth it though. I check the markets but don't have a lot of time to get on when things are hot and moving.

At some point I think I will be actively using Litecoin to do things with. It's a decent "spend" coin in my opinion. Could be others out there but I haven't had a lot of time to research them so I could be missing out!

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It is just awkward with the ledger, having to install apps and then uninstall to put something else on. 160kb... I think my solar -powered calculator from 1976 has more memory.

Yeah, they all sem to be spend coins - not many people doing anything else with them.

Well, No has not yet found a key to a wallet with some bitcoin.

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have you put some Bitcoin into a wallet?