Read the on chain downvote history, along with the comments of those who downvoted.
The term "I do not agree with the rewards given to this post" comes, or came up a lot. It's easy for the person receiving that downvote to think, "Me or my content sucks too much to receive X amount of reward." Then they turn around and see similar content trending, sometimes upvoted by the very account that downvoted them.
Anyways, the point I'm trying to make is, HIVE is a product, and the content on Hive is also a product. All products need producers and consumers. Producers here (for the most part) are your long form content creators, and photographers. Consumers are your average account that doesn't post quality content, but views others content. Your average user isn't going to post high quality content, just like your average youtube account probably doesn't even have a video uploaded, and if they have any uploaded, it's low quality content... We want many of these average accounts here posting their average content making an average of very little for their average post.
I used to read a lot of complaints about downvotes, not so much anymore. The downvoting has slowed, but has it slowed because the downvoters changed their strategy? Or has it slowed because the users targeted have mostly left?
Where are all our consumers? We had plenty... There was a shit load of average Joe's and Janes spewing their gibberish all over the chain, and now they are an endangered species near extinction. I want them back, and if they do decide to come back, I would appreciate it if others didn't chase them away.
Maybe ask the "people who suck" directly to produce more "gibberish." Encourage them.
You're doing great, could you produce more content please? 🤣
But seriously though you are correct, they do need encouragement. I think threads will help the average user.
Now you're catching on. I think you have your roles mixed up a bit.
Since Hive is a decentralized blockchain, and each one of these content creators is like a business owner, I'd say it's each individual's responsibility to attract consumers. And if people wanted their businesses to make money, that would require paying consumers.
A paying consumer wouldn't walk into a shop and begin sweeping the floor to earn money from the shop owners before being able to make a purchase. They'd simply bring their money with them.
An individual with stake is a paying consumer in this scenario. Staking tokens in order to support products the consumer wants is a good deal to the consumer since their money isn't spent and they actually have an opportunity to earn consumers perks like "curation" reward and upvotes on their comments.
There are also a few shortform content platforms on Hive someone wishing to play that role might be interested in. Threads and Dbuzz for example. Very few posting in that fashion are being downvoted for it. It's encouraged.
So what they need are fewer people injecting fear and gibberish in their heads, like you're doing, and more encouragement. In a way I guess you'd call that "good customer service" and really, it's up to each and every individual to provide that.
The platform has a lot of people attempting to double as both content creators and consumers. Consumers show up thinking they need to become content creators, which of course isn't going to work.
Their role along with the perks and benefits needs to be highlighted more. They also have games to play though some of those games can be tricky for the average consumer to get into.
I've been talking about this stuff for years. I compared accounts to businesses in a post here several years before task wrote this post.
What product are we talking about here? HIVE the token, HIVE the blockchain, Hive the blogging platform, the content on Hive? Hive is made up of several products, and each should be marketed to their intended users differently.
Customers (assuming the product is content) don't have to bring their money with them to view content most other places for the creator to get paid, they simply view the content and become the product for ad revenue, and the site owner passes a small portion to the content creator.
As you said, here users end up trying to double as creators and consumers, here the lines get blurry, users get confused by their roles, everything gets wonky. There's no direct connection between ad revenue and the users who bring those views either.
I'm not trying to sew fear, this is the first time I brought any of it up (I think anyways). Just talking about what I've seen.
Hive is a decentralized blockchain. That's all. Various products exist on Hive. LEO is marketing itself. PeakD markets itself. Splinterlands markets itself. And so on. Content creators also create products independently. A content creator doesn't market Hive unless they're a Hive marketer creating content meant to market Hive. I'm a writer and artist. My consumers come to read and look at art. If they shared outside, that would be marketing, which could potentially lead outside consumers to my product and the platform it resides on (also a product) which is both my platform and one of the various products hosting my content, which they own.
Confused yet?
That's right, consumers don't have to bring their money. I can personally support their engagement on my own. Paying consumers do bring their money if they choose to. Much like how on Youtube or twitch, only some people spend money on tips.
If people leave comments under my post, I am consuming that content and rewarding it. If I'm out browsing content and voting, I am a paying consumer. I've both earned and purchased stake. I can manage both creator and consumer roles well. Not everyone can and that's understandable.
Now you're talking about ad revenue and we don't even have ads here. LEO does. If you want that ad rev you must purchase tokens...
And there was nothing encouraging about your first comment. It was all fear mongering and senseless negativity. But to give you credit, I do understand how things can be frustrating here at times. If you see problems, they can be remedied. I'd like to attempt to solve that problem but your description isn't accurate, which is why you didn't come back with an example to show me. You're being an alarmist rather than a problem solver.
It's time to move on. I don't feel like talking in circles today. Hopefully things get better for you and you can enjoy your time here once again.
My bad, seems I've miscommunicated.
I love it here, it's as close to social media as I get. I love every bit of it. But I'm not exactly what you would call a normal person.
My social and communication skills are completely lacking in general, not just in this conversation. Based on your responses I can tell that I have made an error somewhere. Likely in failing to convey that it's an assumption and opinion I'm forming based on responses from people who have been downvoted in the past, not something someone directly says after downvoting someone. But I'm not sure, because as I've stated, I'm a little unskilled in this area.
It's all good. When it comes to words, I screw up daily. I'm not disappointed in you or anything like that. This place is confusing for everyone, including me. Many issues are unique to the individual and their own situation. It's more common to see people being assholes after they've been downvoted for a legitimate reason than it is to see people being assholes and instigating problems with their downvotes. All those problems can be remedied but it's up to the individuals to solve their own problems. No managers here. We're all our own managers. Just like in life, some people are poor managers and can't depend on themselves to get themselves out of a jam or prevent problems from occurring in the first place. Naturally a decentralized environment would be difficult to navigate for those types.
And maybe it's worth noting everything Taskmaster wrote boils down to his own personal opinion and perspective. He's not some kind of Official Hive Representative or some shit like that. Just a dude publishing his own thoughts, like most people do, including me. I represent myself and that's it.
Anyway. It's time for me to go.