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RE: LeoThread 2023-10-06 13:34

Here is the #threadcast for This Week In Hive which will be on Spaces.

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Is taskmaster just perpetually partying in Mexico? Or when will he get back to building the Hive blockchain?

If someone left my head behind, then yes I am stuck there.

Your Head is marked SAFU at @theycallmedan place!

For every non-english speaker, writer I recommend Grammarly browser extension. It's free and corrects small mistakes on the go and suggests correct words.

I second this. It's a great tool!

Just amazing. Made my post writing process a lot faster. The best thing is the user actually learns by using it since rarely other users here are correcting our mistakes.

peakd implemented AI translation for posts, didn't test it, but i think good translations and implementations are just around the corner

Yea and hopefully soon enough we will also get (almost) real-time audio translations. That will be huge

problem with those are that you are not sure what you said :D had a situation in Greece where i had to use speak translation, it was not great but it got the job done.

haha yes I can see that being an issue in some cases

I think so too, AI growing exponentially, pretty soon implementation are everywhere

Have found the AI translator on PeakD as my token was included in part of a French community. Agree that such implementations are getting closer.

I love the poetic reflection and the summary. It didn't work though as I expected in Tagalog translation.

Maybe you can help translate "kilig" into English. 🤓

That word has been used only 6 times on Hive according to #Ecency's Advanced Search, which makes the word looks so difficult to understand. 😅

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Have you seen all the active projects on Hive? Maybe there is one out there that no many people know but is doing great!

That is the basis for the show. People can come on air and talk about what they find.

Impossible to keep up with it all.

Let´s say DBlog or Cast Garden, people don't usually know them. Ask about that to see if someone knows a little about it.

Thanks for having me s here. Great show.

Always a pleasure. Glad you made it in spite of the technical challenges.

We do learn, I've improved a lot here, but there is a lot of people that haven't even had contact with the English language besides maybe a shitty class on high school.

It depends what your priorities are in life. One of my main one was always to learn English as high as possible :)

That is mine too, but we can't pretend all the Latins or others here have it as their goal or even have access to learn, maybe they have internet but not the time, or are already old not feeling like learning something so complex now

If someone don't want to then just left them there. If scrolling TikTok is more enjoyable then absolutely fine, good luck with that :) I think that 70% of society should be Sheeps and just follow the overlord, which is fine too.

That's a little harsh. My mom is here, she can't learn English right now but she cares about Hive and translates everything, she doesn't use tiktok nor anything else. Why not make it easier for her when it's totally possible?

Nothing personal. I am mostly saying about new generation that is just lazy. You see your Mom is able to do that so anyone can right? But yeah I am not against it, I am just saying that it might push people to learn different language.

I want the easy access for people like my mom, but I do share that opinion about the younger generations, they shouldn't even use the option to change language and leave that for those that actually can't learn English now.

I stopped using translators long ago, also I only consumed English content on youtube for two - three years, and that is how I learned it. The ones with at least my access to internet and resources (that is not much) can do it

I also know some people that just can't haha the language section of their brain barely does their native language

Yep. As I said. You can't change the world. You can only help people to fix the problem but if they don't want to than ok, all best, adios! :)

I think if all communities should start hosting spaces, that means different languages must be put into consideration because not everyone would fluently communicate in English as they love to express themselves in their native lang.

Definitely good to have this discussions, even if the solutions take a while, it's awesome if it's sparkle from this.

Nice space!

Yeah there is a lot to be done. We have our work cut out for us.

You are right, Tik tok, and the rest are recorded with mobile and video camera not PC

Sure i will be there!! :D

Excellent.

Be sure to engage in the threadcast. Lets get it to a quality number in terms of comments.

You are right Task. Even viewing shorts on desktop is weird. It's really shaped for mobile usage, end to end

Right now there AI translation that is better than the regular translators.

Having the UI exist native in several languages and the AI for translation of the content, it would be great

At this time the connection is impossible, I am trying to listen to task but there is no way to hear it.

FriendTech and StarsArena are making a lot of noise and already have tens of thousands of users.

Why did Hive never approached X the way these projects are?

Are we (Hive) dinosaurs?

I assume that your advertising method or model has more or available than the one we use.

Maybe we should to a community blitz and just take over web 2.0 with advertising. We've got the minerals, we've just got to make some more noise.

The problem is just a few people care. We have the zealy campaigns and only a few hundred people join, but we are 10k active hivers here... so where are all the other frens?

As with any community, there is a core of few-but-passionate members surrounded by many-but-lukewarm bystanders.

If Hive Fest, Breathe, Hive BeeCon, etc can happen. Anything can.

Let's gather the lions.

Duolingo is a great app for learning languages

The little Spanish I know now I learnt from there

Yes it is a good one.

That's true. I once studied some Russian with that app

Tengo un gato en pantalones...

¿Qué? Sácalo entonces.

Honestly Google Translate is the best tool to learn :)

The reason I brought this up is because dApps can be developed to run within a phone browser. Thus, bypassing the app store.

Ah yes. That is where a lot of devs are going..with progressive web apps that are desktop based but are geared to phones.

I think if you run a browser on a phone and go to a page, you are accessing a web app not a mobile app, even if you login with your phone, but yes this is a way that we can access dapps with phone that need to be considered.

Doesn't Brave block the YT ads on desktop?

Yes. He was referring to the apps which cant block ads.

so far yes but I've heard they are working on it to ad blocker not allow you to use YouTube as some website's got already.

I would guess that shorts could be app like (exclusively shorts page), or, shorts could be utilized similar to pics and posts and inserted into threads in similar fashion.

Finally, i can join a threadcast 😀

Yes you can. Glad you are here early. Less than 2 hours until the show.

Can we fill the threadcast up somewhat before then.

What are we gonna discuss today?

Whatever moves the community. I hope this is like the town hall from Monday. That type of format.

I do have some things I will throw out there.

Some of it will be based upon my article this morning.

The one about the target userbase for Hive?

By the way, looking at Simpleanalytics, Brazil needs to step up.

Just sayin'....

I agree. I thought the same as soon as I saw the chart you included on the article. It surprises me because Brazil is like top 3 in social media usage. We need to bring people from web2 to web3

Yeah. Is the economy in Brazil fairly strong. I know VZ and Argentina are a mess.

In comparison, we are a lot better than those, but not exactly in a great spot. We just had a change in government and that's always challenging so we will see how things go in the next year or two.

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I notice some people quitting play 2 earn recently due to the market being crushed. I'm not one to judge or advice but I'm not doing any of that. Gaming is a HUGE market and we barely scratched its potential. There's still much more to come

I agree. Not sure how people think the end is near. Things are just getting started.

This is what happens when you pay attention to the market price and not technology.

GOod point. Thats a big part of the problem. People see market price going down and drop projects with immense potential because they can't see beyond that

Yep. I said for years if the Internet had market pricing to it, we never would have seen it built. They were building and people were unaware.

I think p2e will be big next bullrun, IF there is better games that comes out. Problem with the sector so far is that the games are not that fun.

I agree. We need better games. But even the ones that are around still have a lot to deliver.

Hive is gradually growing, time was not built in a day... But hive is at a great development right now

If we can keep spreading the word in countries like Nigeria, then we will be golden.

Good show, interesting topics!

That's true. Mobile is pretty much mandatory for shorts

Language toolkits for UI are relatively easy to build. Takes longer to fill out the preprocessor language UI pages (i.e. all the Spanish UI elements) than it does to set up the logic.

You are welcome, Neo

Finally, found the threadscast

I've been rigmaroling all these while

Welcome Neo

Brianoflondon should make that podcast app with Hive soon.

Because casts.garden and hive-tube didnt picked up.

We need to find a way where we don't lose the perks of being global.

If the languages goes to content creation and not on the UI itself, we get segregated. What we need is the functionality of translation so it doesn't matter how we write

We be building. Keep looking for ways to expand what we can control.

That is the key.

I've sometimes had chats on Threads with Spanish speaking users. If I see an interesting post in Spanish, I just run it through my AI extension and then do the same to my reply.

200 USD a month is a rent for 2 Bedroom flat.

But for food and family 200 USD is comfortable.

200 USD a month i would say its more than a base retirement here in south america

but we should never be content with current retirement price..because 1 pandemic can change living expense 10x high with each year ahead.

How hard is it to build HTML dApps? Forego native phone apps all together.

If the site were all in Spanish we would have like 2 Native English speakers... a few Portuguese.... and another bunch of curious but that's it

We have PlayStore, AppStore, GalaxyStore, we need BlockchainStore for Dapps, with no centralized control like apple or google over the store.

Such a store may be provided decentrally. Dapps are usually offered through websites themselves, github, or other "hubs" that are in relation.

Maybe we can have a Hub on hive.io or something like that , so users can trust the apps thats the main problem about downloading from any page

We do have something of this nature in relation to Hive projects. Just moar of websites to go to as opposed to apps that we don't as many of.

Once there is a default language set for a Hive User's profile in settings, that logic can be used to auto translate content into the defualt language of the user.

This is the main idea i wanted to say, the default profile option, then we will not have not translate with 3rd party stuff, thats big, just one time option and you have your first lenguage

Another alternative is to join the push into the Linux phone market. Another anti-corp avenue that puts ownership , privacy and control back into the user. I actually want one, as a side phone, for now.

I wonder if we could have some gamified "keep coming back" feature on Leo, just like Coin Gecko Candies. Do you think that would help with activity?

I think it would. That is an interesting idea. Give people a reason to click in daily.

Then tie the tokens to something on Leo.

This other micro-blogging site, Torum, has that kinda streak system, login every day of the week and get rewarded on the 7th day. Could work here as well.

COol, will check them out

For the concept, of course. I have no interest on building elsewhere

Yeah, me neither. Between you and me, I just share my Hive post there... 😬 Shameless shilling.

I was useless at loggin in Torum lol

Great show guys but unfortunately I will need to go. My phone wouldnt let me connect on space for some reason but I will figure it out so I can participate as a speaker next time.

Glad you were here.

Latin america and Africa will rock in Leoshorts.

We asians would catch up slow.

assumption based on simpleanalytics data

Talking about translation, i know how to translate easy in PC but in phone i think its a lot harder, another reason to translate the UI to another languages

Another great point and consideration.

That's a very good point. I was talking about Grammarly earlier and using it on PC, have no idea how it works on mobile... or is there a mobile version?

Grammarly great app i also use it, No idea about Mobile Translation really, im more a PC user, but i guess is harder to set it up, i think there is a mobile version of grammarly

You just have google translate app open in the background on your phone and just swap between them. That is what I do :)

Just copy the link and drop on the comment section on Spaces.

we need a complete Leo app where you can use threads, blogs, shorts all at one place..

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