I think what matters most for Hive is its decentralized fundament.
It might not be worth/gain much in the short-term, especially compared to all the meme-coins, nfts etc. but the fundament of Hive is solid & strong.
As this world continues to drift more and more into censorship and centralization, Hive might be one of the lights in the dark; a bastion of true decentralized community & friendship.
With this said, you're probably right that people involved here most likely could have made a lot more in other projects, but that's just how it goes. Personally, I'm grateful for the stability that Hive provides within my life. I'm not a billionare yet, but that would be boring anyway... :P
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That may be the mythology, or maybe even the goal of Hive - but it is FAR from what is actually offered here, where a few folks (azircon, altleft, curangel, acidyo, ocd being some of the main ones) actively attack, down-vote, and do everything they can to make this place just as censored as FB or Twitter.
Just because it isn't centralized Hard Censorship (straight deleting posts & accounts) doesn't make it any less of the central control (stake) driving people (creators & consumers) away from the platform, and showing that all that matters here is kissing the ass of whales.
Luckily, there's still a few whales with principles here, but it seems like they're all going more and more inactive, or leaving the platform completely.
I only recommend Hive to folks interested in playing Splinterlands or throwing out their art/music - as it is most certainly not a place for journalism, research, or others wanting to push the conversation and get away from censorship.
It's unfortunate, and I was definitely among the hopeful when we forked from Steem, but it's become clear that while the chain is more (economically) alive than it was under StInc, it has also given up any real pretense of being a decentralized or censorship-free/resistant platform.
What you said here, I couldn't have said it better. I wanted to add that just the fact that posts can be hidden here by downvotes (even though they are not deleted) is already a form censorship of information oppression. I think Dan's thesis was that the community would be able to monitor harmful content (I would call this decentralized censorship). I think his thesis was the more decentralized downvotes are the less it looks like censorship. He did not realize at the time that because stake is centralized because a small % of the population owns a portion of the wealth , big downvotes are more centralized. This platform might be better than 1 govern body being able to censor, but still the censorship power is in the power of the wealthy.
Precisely!
The funny thing is that, in general, these masses of conspiracy theorists and the whales, orcas, and dolphins that support them are in favor of free speech and prefer to challenge someone's ideas rather than simply attacking them.
That means that the malicious down-votes (those not targeting fraud, plagiarism, violence, etc.) pretty much exclusively come from one end of the pool... and for the "equalization" of down-votes to occur would just mean a whole lot less rewards for all sorts of creators - and even more centralization of stake for the whales.
Great point! So free speech is great, until a whale or curation group doesn't like it.
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Haha, I'm with you on the gratefulness part, gratefulness to where we are brings us far. <3
haha while this is true, as I lived it myself, it was part of the point I was trying to make, is that looking purely at economic value, Hive hasn't been able to attract much. Which brings me to my next worries about the fundamentals.
Also about the decentralization of this chain, I can give arguments on why it's not really decentralized (I have touched on this in the post, but you're willing to discuss this, I'm game haha).
There is a reason I put 5g towards Hive delegation power ontop of the 10g I put into the second layer of Hive recently (admittedly I consolidated into SPL nfts and saw even greater returns lol). Hive is pretty solid in price and under a dollar I think its a steal.
I have been extremely vocal about the flags by top stake holders on anti authoritarian content especially towards anti bill gates medical procedures.
Solutions not problems is what I have been told my whole working life working as corporate union Stagehand. Hive can present just as many solutions as problems.
I need help or advice in a solution I see that could help Hive but I am a simple dreamer normie...
Is there a way a proposal can be written up to have the community create a sps:bee or sps:hive pool or a way that the community can airdrop sps to Hive staked holders? This way to incentivize Staking Hive and to support a business on the blockchain that is helping Hive grow?
This is an interesting take. And honestly it could be an interesting solution of hive lacking fees. To frame it a different way, they could ask fees from the layer 2 applications and then add these to the interest of hive users. However, this could make it massively unattractive for layer 2 application builders and it doesn't solve a lot of other problems such as decentralization.
But could be a step to the right direction.
That is essentially what Somee is doing. But yeah I am somewhat surprised a proposal hasn't been made to further support and back sps with the community funds. The community of Hive could really help shape the direction of splinterlands and as a community we can be that whale that spl panders too...
This is an interesting take. And honestly it could be an interesting solution of hive lacking fees. To frame it a different way, they could ask fees from the layer 2 applications and then add these to the interest of hive users. However, this could make it massively unattractive for layer 2 application builders and it doesn't solve a lot of other problems such as decentralization. But could be a step in the right direction.
also @leofinance is doing something cool too but in that genre of content creation of finance. https://leofinance.io/@leofinance/introducing-polycub-or-preparing-for-launch-tokenomics-airdrop-details-and-partnerships