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The first casualty is the truth. From there it is guesswork.

And the winners always are those making the weapons.

lol, I opened this thread just to see if someone commented this or else I was gonna do.

Weapon makers are literally making billions in all these wars.

They are. And they have incentive to keep the money train rolling in.

When I wrote this thought, I wasn't thinking about the financial part. However, you have a nice point here.

eh I'm pretty sure there are winners

Arms manufactures might fit in that category...

and the people that didn't get blown up

In the financial aspect, yes, but that's not what I thought when I wrote my thoughts.

and also in war, lives are lost

Sadly true.

Indeed. Even those who allegedly "win" typically end up with only a short-lived illusion of victory. Unless we classify profit from arms production as "winning."

I couldn't agree more.