After months and years worth of trying to have an honest discussion about these things with my ex, I finally came to a sad conclusion. First, people hear what they want to hear. Especially with stubborn women, people are well-equipped to live in denial. Secondly, in her particular case, she had 80% of the traits of a passive aggressive narcissist. Which practically, meant any criticism of her choices, was processed as an attack. And when someone has no capacity to improve, I just couldn't figure out a way through her thick skull.
It's a tough road, and I wholeheartedly support the need for us to vent this crap. It friggin sucks!
I think men can be stubborn too. But I hear you, you can only meet people where they are at.
Yes we certainly need to be able to vent, that is for sure xxx