In general, the times aren't good for Deception nowadays, I agree.
Top deck info isn't representative, people get a win streak, like, 30 games, 21 win, 70% win rate. It happens especially often when a guy first pushed down to lower ranks on WR and then skyrocketed back to the higher liege. Many decks rely on luck a lot so they sometimes have a long row of wins or losses. Then, the "capable hands" can de-rank again but his lucky deck becomes a monument in top decks table on gudecks.
I agree with you. There is no way to maintain an average based on top ranks. These are collections with a high cost for what they can deliver to the player. While there are simpler and cheaper options like WAR AGGRO.
I understand the win streak argument, but if you look at the matchup tables at https://gudecks.com/meta/matchups?god=deception&timeFrame=7&userRank=10 you'll find the Deception decks that have an overall win rate against other archetypes above 50%. In the case of Solar Gold and counting 7 days worth of matches, Mayday, Hidden Rush and Aggro have win rates above 50%. The latter 2 are generally pretty cheap decks. You don't get these numbers with win streaks only, these percentages take into consideration matches for all players.
Your argument is based on the 50%+ on average which is based on Mayday Deception. So you ruined your argument "people just don't understand how to play" "Deception in capable hands is..." But as we see from the table you only need to buy a card for 20$ to be "capable hands". Personally, despite my passion for Deception... I just hate the laughter of this flying b***h (Kamala Harris of GU), only insane people can play this archetype (sorry fans of Mayday but you are nuts).
I like Mill Deception, my own style Mill Deception, although look at this guy: https://gudecks.com/meta/player-stats?userId=3791411
He plays his own style Mill Deception in Ethereal Diamond. His (her?) deck is very smart: https://gudecks.com/decks/GU_1_2_BEbBEbBFXBFXLAGNBgNBgNBmNBmNBpNBpNCbNCbQATQATCCWCCWCCgCCgCFLCFPCFPGCKGCKIAkIAkIAnIAnICmICm?godPowers=100119&creator=Gabe_Ster%20TTV&userId=3791411&archetype=Mill%20Deception
It didn't work in Auric where I am most often (maybe I wasn't skillful since the deck is new to me as for playing). As soon as I am in Ethereal (it happens but not often), I'll try it again. Fun, a lot.
As for top decks on gudecks. My fresh story. I tried to test this and that (ToD cards) and was punished for that - de-ranked to Midnight and Twilight even. Then, I returned to my standard Mill Deception saying "never again testing!!" and guess what had happened? I skyrocketed to Auric (and failed to get into Solar). And look I am on the 3-day list, the last deck of ??? (me):
https://gudecks.com/decks/GU_1_2_BBJBBJBFXBFXMBbNBmNBmNCbNCbQATQATCCNCCNCCWCCWCCgCCgCFPCFPGBEGBEGCKGCKIAkIAkIAlIAlIAnIAnICm?godPowers=100119&creator=???&userId=781645&archetype=Mill%20Deception
I don't understand what logic you use to mix GU opinions with American politics. My guess is that many people here in Hive are not American or don't follow American politics to understand what the reference is about. Btw - I follow American politics and I don't understand what Kamala Harris' politics has in common with the point I was trying to make about Deception.
Regarding the 'capable hands' argument. Not everyone is able to play this game with the same proficiency level. There are clearly people who are more capable and talented than others. You can see that on how some people consistently rank high in the leaderboards and perform really well in tournaments. This is despite the enormous influence luck plays in the game. Some people try to play competitively and choose decks for that purpose and try hard at understanding the meta and getting better at the game. Other people have fun trying out new stuff or playing around with game mechanics they particularly enjoy. That is fine too, but don't expect those ways of playing will yield the same success in victories as someone who is focused on playing the best decks possible to climb the ladder.
Ultimately I was just pushing back on the notion that Deception is weak and not competitive. I don't think that is the case and I pulled data from GU Decks that demonstrates how optimized Deception decks (not only Mayday but other decks too) can be as competitive as decks from other Gods.
If you actually followed American politics, you would know what's common between Kamala Harris and Admiral Mayday.
I didn't see this coming... this is entertainment, it's not politics.
I understand if you find the laughter annoying in both cases, but the laughter itself is not similar.
I still find it surprising that your opinion on an archetype is base on the SFX of the card. You know you can turn the sound off right? Of all the legitimate criticisms about Mayday decks you went and mentioned one that can be simply turned off.
But going back to my point, I was never arguing in favor of Mayday specifically, I was pointing out a number of Deception decks that perform really well, even when looking at averages.
Okay, we had this discussion, we didn't agree on some points, it happens. Thank you for your opinion and your passion for GU!
I see you share Hive links on Reddit sometimes. Then, it might be interesting to you to join the contest for delegation: https://peakd.com/hive-197333/@acidyo/hiveposh-impressions-contest-2
Not enough people have joined it yet, so you may get some delegation even if your Hive links have not many views on Reddit.