Hello @buggedout,
Your arguments make sense if you consider "government" and "people" as separate systems. Governments can only redistribute through existing concepts financed by taxes and social security contributions. The whole thing is already a big and complex redistribution, no matter what concept or name is written on it.
There is currently no model that would be any different.
So it makes no difference what people say about governments, because this concept of external provision has been going on long before we were born.
All people who do not live in self-sufficiency units (pure agrarian societies) live under the conditions of money distribution, i.e. under the decisions that this money distribution system makes available. There is no other way. If you did not want to have redistribution, you would have to leave the system completely and live a completely self-sufficient life. This is impossible in modern societies.
Since there is already a basic income, but it only has a different name and is linked to certain conditions, the only reason for this is psychological. Not a financial one. Financing can always be achieved if one has the will.
You will never achieve a model by not taking something from you, that much should be clear. To what extent you feel that this is a theft committed against you is a subjective consideration. There are no unproductive people. Just the fact that you have to live and feed yourself, that you have to be mobile, that you need access to modern means of communication, you are already part of productivity, no matter whether you are still in gainful employment or not. Everyone MUST expend energy in order to stay alive, they must be able to feed themselves and move around to get at least the bare necessities. From this point of view, every person who is alive is already productive. If someone were not productive in this sense, he would be dead.
How do you personally want to live? What is your idea of living together?