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RE: Selling votes through beneficiaries

in OCD4 years ago

I’m a bit torn on this particular use case. The one thing that gives me pause is that I actually hope that more community features will roll out in time and enable the original vision of communities being able to set a beneficiary percentage for posting in the community. I think there’s a lot of positive use cases & incentive to that structure. What’s being done here isn’t that different, however the 50% “donation” is rather high!

I feel like at any kind of scale that model starts to break down as too many users vie for the accompanying vote support and the 50% drain is too much... especially if no other curators will touch that community with a ten foot pole.

More than vote selling, I’d be inclined to categorize this as 50% self voting which is rather high percentage by broader community standards. The unfortunate thing is it sets up normal users as human shields... so there’s no easy answer. 🤷‍♂️

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Yeah I'm hoping more community development is done for the extra features, but those beneficiary cuts would be more a thing like "I'm posting here for the visibility because of the growth of the community you guys have worked hard on and of course curation from all your subscribers" rather than a single person/account getting all the beneficiary for themselves and only curating the people if they're paying the beneficiary cut and ignoring all else.

Totally agree on the intent. I'd love to see community owners use it to sponsor advertising, community contests, etc. as well. I think we're bound to see plenty of situations like this though where a community is driven/bootstrapped by a single large account. Acting in good faith that's great for Hive distribution, engagement, and retention. In bad faith... well, see your post above! ☝️

Yeah, right now while those community settings aren't in place yet, we're voting on curation compilations/reports of many communities in our incubation to reward the curators, moderators and at the same time also fund some tipping activity for posts that may not be as great to nominate for curation yet (but you want to motivate them to do better) or comments that standout since the curation curve tax kinda makes it hard to give comments a decent upvote. So we've been using this "hack" to fund contest rewards and keep people who do work alongside the communities a lot but don't post themselves but it would be much better with beneficiary options from the beginning. Hopefully we can focus on the community development after this next HF!

More than vote selling, I’d be inclined to categorize this as 50% self voting which is rather high percentage by broader community standards.

yes.