RE: The Leo finance proposal: to vote or not to vote?

[rainbowdash4l]

Hmm I love that this question resulted in a constructive discussion.

I won’t say how anyone should vote. I do find it “interesting” (for lack of a more suitable word) that “X” is lobbying for people to remove the vote of a specific proposal rather than have people make up their own mind.

I voted yes on the proposal as I am active on the platform and am interacting with some of the recruited dash accounts.

I would welcome all constructive critism as it can help to improve.

One point of constructive critism I have is that the “new account” stat doesn’t mean anything- especially when “new users” are rewarded just for being new… this means it it would pay off to play the system -> create new accounts to get rewarded for fake engagement. There is reason to suspect this happening (with the bs quote accounts)
But… there are also some great new users such as thelastdash that really add value.

My question to you - why did you vote yes initially? And what changed?

Comments

[zaku]

thelastdash, as a great new user. So I thought, I should look into this account and see how great is it. It seems thelastdash posts mostly on leofinance and leo.voter is the main supporter. Then I looked into his/her wallet and there is some transactions I am curious about.Hey @rainbowdash4l, I see you mentioned

These are the outgoing transactions by thelastdash, fexonice & fexosd, As far as I know these are not any exchange deposit account, so its probably his alt account. because when I checked fexosd account it says thelastdash2 & there is lots of transaction between thelastdash2 & fexonice and there you go its not a new account.This account created on 2022.

One point of constructive critism I have is that the “new account” stat doesn’t mean anything- especially when “new users” are rewarded just for being new… this means it it would pay off to play the system -> create new accounts to get rewarded for fake engagement.

So, I don't have to say anything about fake account 🤷‍♂ .

OHHH !! I forgot to mention KE, there you go.

[azircon]

the entire dash community is a net negative for hive

it is by design, and so will be every other new partnership that Leo proposes.

If you tell them post in Leo and earn Dash, what you are proposing.

They post (trash) -> Earn Hive -> Sell Hive -> Earn X (X is whatever coin)

[zaku]

Exactly, onboarded people only know how to earn that X token by using this system and that's what they are doing. It's just an alternative way to earn that X token.

[rainbowdash4l]

Thank you for this. Had to take a few hours to fully understand what that means and how that makes me feel.

Seeing this account and his alt accounts also as guest author at one of my favorite project makes me feel both sad aswell as a bit betrayed.

Thank you for this wake up call.

[rainbowdash4l]

@khaleelkazi is there a way where we can see what the actual new accounts are that came from Dash?

Seeing this specific user I do feel a bit played (by that user, and by the system), seeing the amount of rewards he gathered aswell as the incentive to get the # new lion tag does raises some question on whether the kpi new users is actually a reliable argument or that is moving the added value discussion in the wrong direction.

My constructive feedback is: rewarding new users specifically, creates an incentive to create new accounts and get rewarded for being a # rather by adding value. I hope we can tackle that perverse incentive as I do enjoy the platform a lot and see specifically the added value of the microblogging.

Hoping you got some time to share your thoughts on this.