Sort:  

If the goverment becomes a lawbreaker, its citizens would follow it.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/tree-liberty-quotation/

Thanks!

Totally agreed. But I think we are already past this situation. 😔

Looking at writings of the Founding Fathers, there was still an emphasis on virtue study, and transmission or education in virtue in the Aristotelian sense. Tangentially this is the piece of the puzzle that is missing for me in some extreme libertarian arguments, we lack the people educated well enough to survive or aven obtain some of their utopian ideals.

Posted using Political Hive

Yeah, if most people had to rely on themselves they would fail at this point.
Luckily, we don't have to rely upon ourselves.
There is a portion of the population so productive that most of us don't have to work.
With proper management none of us have to contribute more than about 25k hours of labor.
We could live in a worker's paradise, but nope.

source

Much of what is work now, outside the trades, is substantially meaningless, as a project manager for a demolition company I used to have to prepare certain submittals, inch-thick binders of paper, plans and assessments that I knew only the reviewer would ever read - and then only for the highlights to make sure it had been done because it was a contractual requirement.

For my own sanity I always schedule a day a week to be out on a job site and would spend a few hours working with my men, it certainly made me a better project manager and estimator to have a granular understanding of how things get done - but it also gave me the excuse to feel the sun on my face, and to do something in the material world.

Yep, like @amaterasusolar tells us, 80% of jobs are just moving money around.

That is why I say on any given tuesday the workers of the world can ignore the owners and accounting department, continue to fill the shelves, and take what they need.
Specialty orders would take longer, but whatever the big box stores stock will still be available provided the workers continue to do the work in the amounts required by demand.
IF the accounting department and owner fell into a lake, who would notice?