Leo Stuff
As you might know Leo people especially Khal and Nomad are bothering many of the hive stakeholders, via DM. They are peddling you to vote on their proposal. I have been very public against this effort from the very beginning, and I have written a boat load of post on why I am against voting their proposal. It is not just me, but many others have done so as well.
https://peakd.com/hive-196233/@azircon/lies-sruvlc
https://peakd.com/hive-196233/@oblivioncubed/overpromise-and-underdeliver-the-hype-train
https://peakd.com/hive-126152/@azircon/impermanence-and-the-blockchain
I know that several hive stakeholders are pushed into unvoting the return proposal in addition to vote on Leo proposal. They have been trying that for a long time and please folks, do not bend under pressure. What you do here matters, and your actions will be written on the blockchain, there is no way to hide from it. Later on time will come when you might regret it, and then it will be too late.
Why do I say this? Because this is a terrible financial decision as a stakeholder supporting Leo proposal. I have explained why in the posts above clearly.
Please read into the details and consider re-visiting your actions.
Khal on my DM
I have Khal blocked in every possible way, but still he found a way to reach me on mattermost. I want to put the conversation public. I have said to him that I will make this conversation public, so there is no issue about it.
Hey, I'm sure I'm the last person you expect to reach out to you but I am reaching out to see if we can mend any fences. I know there have been quite a few disagreements between us but I have found that most disagreements are misunderstandings and can be sorted out with a simple audio call.
If you are open to it, I would love to chat and mend any misgivings. I'm an investor in Hive and I believe in making this ecosystem successful. I also am a huge fan of Splinterlands and have worked hard on things like the "Join INLEO, Earn SPS" integration where Splinterlands players can share stuff about the game on INLEO and actually earn SPS (LEO gets swapped for SPS automatically on the backend which results in buy pressure on the SPS token).
I am not peddling for your vote in any sense and will not ask you for your support, my only goal here is to at least be on neutral terms with someone who I believe also wants Hive to succeed. I know I can rub people the wrong way at times because I tend to charge hard into experimentation and trying to push the technology of our platform forward. I think a call could do really well for us to just clear the air.
If that's something you are open to, feel free to DM me anytime with your schedule and I will make myself available at your convenience. Hope you have a great weekend!
There you have it. You read and make your own determination.
The thing that bothers me the most is the fact that he says the following:
I personally have over 1.5M HIVE POWER but keep it in non-doxxed accounts for my own personal reasons
By the way, he says that not just to me, but to many others for years. I honestly have no idea why. Why would you do such a thing? If anyone have any idea please enlighten me.
To the open source thing: here is my take.
I don't give a shit!
Ten years on hive? That's a good trick!
Hey, I am here since Stone Age!
Lol.
I have this tagline as a spoof. I might have to make it earlier if it seems realistic!
see if I do it, I got to get my facts straight, as there are significant difference in opinions on 'when' exactly stone age started! Damn archeologists! They are definitely lesser than geologists! :)
Haha, damn facts. Always getting in the way! 🤣🤣
I really wonder why he decides to run his business in that manner, why not just make public blogs about these topics instead of running into DM's with people, seemingly begging.
Vote begging is a common practice at hive :)
What exactly is his goal?
Like why go to such lengths? I just can't wrap my head around it😂
Neither can I.
That is why I put it out here in public. You see yourself and decide.
Good to stand up for your principles and I do recall all the data on new users onboarded so far that you have provided, it was very clear. But it would have been nice if he really was sincere in what he is saying in that exchange. The more people on Hive working towards Hive success the better.
Yes, I have been saying this over and over again, and yet people don't care. Well, so be it, would be my answer.
I don't like the LEO team because they said kind words but did things differently. Look at CUB/LEO projects before. And now with InLeo.
Finally, I decided to unstake all my staked LEO to invest in another project.
I unstaked 2435 LEO but only received back 1800 LEO.
When I raised the ticket, the 1st question from Khal was "are you sure you have that much LEO to unstake?"
That's so ridiculous
yeah, yeah! He is the rich guy and you are poor! :)
Why would he say this? Ask the IRS why someone would want to hide their identity (finances) for personal reasons, I am not a tax expert.
That would be a tax fraud. Why would a legitimate person do that?
You can't assume it is tax fraud. It could also be money laundering or terrorist financing and it is why hive should not be supporting such an individual or project.
He literally admitted this to you and represents the community. That's not someone who should be leading a financial forum let alone a kitty cat club.
That is my point: what kind of stupid individual admits of having a annonymous account where he stashed some cash, and admits in public with multiple people. That makes no sense.
So here are the alternatives:
Stupid
Lie
I am going with the Lie.
I personally just never engaged, nor replied to any DMs.
Perhaps, that's not bad. It is difficult for me to digest all the lies.
When you think that we can breathe a bit without any new inleo trial to succeed here it comes...
I can say that Khal is smart and has good marketing ideas. What do people love in a decentralized ecosystem? Open source is a keyword!
Something that also triggers my mind is creating a hypothesis: Their UI is so bugged that they gave up and decided to open source so other people can help with that! That isn't clear in the proposal but is my guess.
Anyways, they are getting funded again...that's it!
will see about the funding, its a long way home.
What people often don't understand that a proposal can be defunded at any time, and often does.
yeah but still they are getting 5x my salary per month to pay their home bills for probably doing 5 times less what I do in 8 hours a day work
I believe you.
No one contacted me. I guess it means that my stake is not big enough. It seems that sometimes being a small fish has its benefits as well.
Good, then there is nothing for you to do. Just vote on return proposal and you are good.
It's hard to like the LEO project more and more with the way Khal has been sneaking around lately.
I have been loving the development by LEO lately and I have tried to ignore looking at everything he has been doing.
But even I received a DM from him, asking to unvote the return proposal.
That made me lose a lot of respect for the whole LEO project overall and of course I'm not going to unvote the return proposal.
Most of the hive users, who has never heard from him, have received DM from him asking people to vote his proposal and unvote the return proposal. It is the last part that seems most cringy to me, and especially the way he is peddling it.
After reading your posts on Leo and the data you provided, I unstaked the few Leo tokens I have and am selling them. Thanks for sharing this information with the community.
you are welcome
I think this kind of conversation can be settled with a good war battle in Splinterland.
Clan [KoG] Shield of Glory (Arzincon).
Clan Iron Faint (Richardoswal).
Clan (undefined). (Khal)
Sure. Trouble is can khal’s deck compete with mine? :)
I think they gave up on swaying me. It's not like I have a huge stake anyway. It's too bad because I really think things could have been different with a few small changes. CUB didn't do them any favors with a lot of people. I personally got burned on it and though I have moved on, I have a long memory.
Oh good. At least you don't have to worry about DMs!
Indeed! :)
Interesante post 👏 no entiendo de propuestas y las ignoro por q soy nuevo y no entiendo pero esto me deja claro q voy bien😎
I say vote the return proposal myself and have done so with my tiny stake. Make it so only good quality projects get anything, if they dont get a good chunk of people onboard they get nothing.
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