Thanks for the reply. The Wild West analogy is so perfect for crypto.
Upvote abuse Was much more of a problem and downvotes fixed that which is why I’m not against downvotes.
People who self vote tend to get downvoted. We still don't have a culture of discouraging massive downvotes for none-spam and I think the reason for that is most of us don't want to mess with the people who do it.
I’m not saying people shouldn’t be free to do what they want. I’m just saying some behavior makes for a shitty ecosystem that’s going to scare people away and leak value. And the same way we made downvotes to put a cap on upvote abuse, we’d definitely benefit from exploring ways to do the same for downvotes. Though it's definitely a tricker one.
I also agree people benefit from working with the community, but a lot of people don't understand the politics of hive and don't believe there are good people with power here. My willingness to work with the community comes from my trust in people like acidyo and Theycallmedan. If I thought that no one cares about making this place more fair and that downvoting people "because they are from poor countries and don't need that much to survive" was widespread behavior...well I'd leave pretty quickly, especially if I just got here.
Speaking of upvote abuse,Has anyone thought about asking these auto-voting services to make their trails decay so they need to be updated every 6 months? I’m pretty sure 100% of ranchor votes follow haejin. And I'm pretty sure ranchor doesn't check hive at all.
There are some big accounts who don't care what anyone thinks of them and maybe they don't care about Hive either. I hope they are a small minority. It is bad that people have to fear retribution for doing what they think is right, but it's another price of freedom.
Anyone can create an auto-vote service, so even if one reduced the power another might not implement that. As far as I know haejin has control of the rancho posting keys, so he can make it do what he wants, but I saw a post from someone claiming to be the owner of the rancho account saying they had lost their keys, so I guess it can never power down. That seems very careless.
It is my hope that Hive can keep on growing with more people getting to orca level and above. That helps to spread the voting power and so the whales would have less influence. For now it is really a tiny community compared to the big sites. These could be considered growing pains I guess.
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eeeshhhh thats a shitty situation for hive but I guess it serves to challenge us to grow and find our own weak points. I did not know he had the keys, i thought he had been left on autovote by a dude who disappeared years ago.
Well I am trying to encourage some more brainstorming to come up with ways to protect small users against bullying which I see one person doing a lot of and 2 or 3 large stakeholders enabling. It's not about using downvotes on a single post, it's about targeting innocent people and continuously nuking their posts until their supporters give up on supporting them because their upvotes are all cancelled out anyway. I'm not talking about argumentative or even fringe people either (not that I think they deserve it) . I'm talking about hard-core Hivers who have never powered down and get involved in multiple communities and projects.
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