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RE: Venezuela en Denver [ESP] // [ENG] Venezuela in Denver || OPINION

in Full Deportes4 years ago

Mr. Fermionico, we have arrived here thanks to your tweet, in which you mention a piece of news, but when we enter we see that you are using the images found on our website, in which the rules are very clear about the use of our images. , logo and all trademarks, and in which it is specified that any and all use of them in which you receive financial compensation is prohibited.

We appreciate that you desist from the act and contact our legal department at the following email: [email protected]

Direction:

MLB Advanced Media, L.P
Copyright Agent
75 ninth avenue
New York, NY 10011
United States of America
Phone Number: (212) 652-1690
Fax number: (212) 485-8111

In the same way, we leave you the links where you can observe our policies for the use of information shared on our website.


https://www.mlb.com/en/official-information/legal-notices https://www.mlb.com/official-information/terms-of-use#section-1

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I'm sure they're sorry for trying to enjoy baseball, you energy vampire cunts.

Can we get some confirmation that you are who you claim you are?

If you like, you can use this form: https://hivewatchers.com/verifications/new

Your account has been blacklisted for identity theft.

It is more than obvious that the account that calls attention to the fault committed by the author is a fake account. But it brought to light an issue that deserves to be taken into consideration. What he raises is sustainable and deserves sanction.

I wonder, will @hivewatchers do something about it?

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  1. The photographs are not the main highlight of the post. The writing is.
  2. The post did not include curated photography or art tags.
  3. It is now suspected that this account was created by you.
  4. If you think that some images (that are not the main highlight of the post and which are not published in curated image tags) included in some post need to be sourced, please just ask politely the user to add the sources.

Unnecessary fluff.

All you had to say was use of copyrighted images is not within the scope of HW.

Use that "logic" of yours for once.

Exactly.

Copyright laws differ in different countries. HW scope is "using someone's content to monetize" not copyright laws.
HW still follow the principle of Proof of Brain.

That's just what's happening. Using someone else's material to monetize my content. And HW does nothing, simply because he doesn't want to do anything.

 4 years ago (edited) 

I'm really impressed with the fact that you're telling something in this comment that you actually don't do when you're making your work.

The point number 1 has been a fact in so many posts of people that has been blacklisted for you without a first warning, so, basically if you're not famous you don't deserve justice? Please explain this, because with newbies I don't read you saying the same thing if a person by mistake or ignorance doesn't put the source of an image, I think that justice has to be the same for everyone on Hive, not with privileges for known authors.

The point number 3 is really weird coming from a "regulator" of the good behavior on Hive, because it has some kind of a personal tone on it, don't you think? You can't say that kind of things if you don't have proof of it, that's a mere personal speculation.

The point number 4 is just absurd coming from you, you never tell in a good way to people to fix issues with their posts, you'd even almost start a xenofobic attack against venezuelan authors by mixing a lot of thing without sense when this is a fight without flags, race or genre, this is a fight of good people against bad people.

I love the work that you do to erradicate bad people, but I can't tolerate the lack of justice in your contradictions right now.

I respond to each of your points:

  1. I have seen publications condemned by this author, and by yourselves, for less than what is going on here.
  2. With this you remind me of the cheap justice in some countries. They invent ways for their friends to benefit. They create rules or exceptions to the rule in order not to condemn those who they DO NOT WANT to condemn.
  3. This made my day! Hahaha Do you think I have time to go around creating fake accounts to fuck around? No, friends, I have too many important things to do to go around trolling at this level. Besides, if it were me why would I correct the link to MLB policies that the fake account posted and do it with my real account while I was at it? Only an idiot would do that! With editing the comment of my supposed fake account, I had. If it were me, I wouldn't even show up here. Or I'd simply create another fake account and that's it, I'd keep feeding the discord, don't you think?
    To assume they are as helpful as they are deficient. I check the bad reputation they have.
  4. Yes, you are right, I will ask the author to add the sources, but I will not be polite or respectful with a user who is not respectful with those who make much smaller mistakes than this one.

MLB rules are very clear, have you already contacted them to corroborate about the false identity and about the conditions of use of their images?



Respondo a cada uno de sus puntos:

  1. He visto publicaciones condenadas por este autor y por ustedes mismos, por menos de lo que está pasando aquí.
  2. Con esto me hacen recordar a la justicia barata de algunos países. Se inventan unas maneras de que sus amigos salgan beneficiados. Se crean normas o excepciones a la norma con tal de no condenar a quien NO QUIEREN condenar.
  3. ¡Con esto me hicieron el día! Jajaja ¿Crees que tengo tiempo de andar creando cuentas falsas para joder a quien a mí no me ha hecho nada? Además, si fuera yo ¿por qué habría de corregir el enlace a las políticas de MLB que colocó la cuenta falsa y de paso hacerlo con mi cuenta real? ¡Solo un idiota haría eso! Si fuera yo, ni me apareciera por aquí. Con editar el comentario de mi supuesta de cuenta falsa, tenía ¿No creen? Para suponer son tan solícitos, como deficientes, ya compruebo la mala fama que tienen.
  4. Sí, tienen razón, le pediré que agregue las fuentes, pero no seré educado y respetuoso con un usuario que no lo es con los que cometen errores mucho menores que este.

Las normas de MLB son bien claras. ¿Ya se comunicaron con ellos para corroborar lo de identidad falsa y sobre las condiciones del uso de sus imágenes?

Para llegar directo a la página, sin contratiempos, seguir este enlace: https://www.mlb.com/es/official-information/terms-of-use#section-1

También quiero mi downvote, por favor. 🙂😎

Necio el muchachito

Sin downvote, no vale el muteo.

Lo valiente no quita lo cortez.
Pide por favor tu downvote, JAJAJAJA.

Ya le dejé el mío. 🙂

Ya nos silenció a los dos.
La valentía.

Sorry but how are legal issues any of our issues? If they want they can send DMCA's to the front-ends. He sourced the images in his post which is kind of community consensus, it's not like the community go out of their way to check if all images are fair use or not, I'm sure I've used images in the past that weren't as long as the post isn't mainly about the images like this one. Seems like you're exaggerating asking for downvotes on an account based on something I'm sure many of us do.

A wave of plagiarism is coming, as long as they put source links to pages that for the most part, do not allow the reproduction of their content, following the recommendation of your comment. And all hiding behind fair use.

All because:

community consensus

And because:

I'm sure many of us do.

Sorry Fer no tengo nada en tu contra y deseo que pronto salgas del problema, lo único que se me ocurre para que evites ésto pues es obviamente conseguir consentimiento, o rechazar las recompensas por éste contenido para que deje de considerarse una actividad comercial, y entonces sí, sea meramente educativo, informativo, y por el gusto de compartir.

What does this have anything with plagiarism to do?

He didn't just post images and tag #photography. The post isn't about the images it's about the text, if the text is plagiarised/spun then sure prove it and I'll join in on downvoting it. Other than that let the people claiming they can't use certain images deal with the images being taken down. They're stored on front-ends or on image storing servers of the front-ends after all, not on the blockchain.

Are you telling me that I can steal a book as long as I don't use Tag writing?

Are you being a dumbass on purpose?

He's not being rewarded FOR the images, it's for the text. You can use images as banners or relevance to the text to make the post look better. It's really not rocket science unless you are trying to get on my nerves on purpose then great fucking job.

Well you can get upset because I make you see the mistake you are making by saying this, of course the image is decisive for it to receive reward, write a post without images to see how it goes, the problem is that small and new users are destroyed by errors that can be argued in that, they did not know or because everyone does it

Maybe, you need read this or if you need it in spanish

Speak for yourself.

I don’t do it. I use my own content. I have no need to steal.

Maybe you should stop projecting onto me.

Okay I didn't directly mean you or me but way to turn your back against a fellow hiver and ring the downvote alarms on some petty IP issue from an obvious sock.

Whether or not it’s a Walden account is a minor issue.

The truth was told by the rando, and what @fermionico did was steal content he had no legal right to, to profit himself.

Since he refused to do the right thing I gave him some help.

He's not profiting from the images, they're not the sole reason he's receiving rewards on the post. Since it's images he may not legally use it's in the hands of the owner to take actions against him and/or the front-ends/the storage of the images. People share these stuff on Reddit daily, soccer subreddits share gifs and an hour or so later the gifs are taken down, the person who posted them isn't the one receiving any consequences even if the main thing was the gif that wasn't legal to be used, it's the website or the server storing it that takes care of DMCA's or legal issues with the content.

Yet here you want to punish someone for content he used where the content wasn't the main thing people were curating his post for.

Well by this argument all image and content poaching is fair game. Nice to know. So anyone can just take your posts and profit from them.

Good to know.

That means that in my next post I can use an image from wherever I want and not put the source and/or I don't care if it is forbidden by the owners, I still won't give a damn, and nobody will come here in Hive (including the aforementioned protagonist of this whole dilemma or the nice guys from Hive Watchers, or some other self-appointed "watchers" and "defenders" of Hive, like thugs to give me downvote or leave me threatening or offensive messages since, after all, my main content is the text and not that image.

Is that what you want to tell me?

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Maybe, you need read this or if you need it in spanish

What you are doing is not fair use. You are benefiting financially.

At the same time it feels a bit gullible to expect a representative of MLB to notice this on the same day it's posted. I mean come on.

@mlb-of He will be handled. As he is in Venezuela all we can do is nuke his reputation and remove all post rewards and continue to do so as he makes new accounts and returns. I have a feeling he will comply as he is reasonable and has been one of the better behaved members of the Venezuelan community. I might be the only friend he has among the abuse fighting community but that friendship ends where my tickets become endangered.