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RE: Starting Again - Liquid Drum & Bass Freebie

in Music4 years ago (edited)

Hear Hear!

All you've said, I 100% agree with.

HIVE is everything. All good, but not at all to be honest. All good in the world of Total Freedom. But terrible to get an establish brand in the market. I think those who play ball with HIVE, are the devs, and many of them seem to believe in no marketing, devs will find HIVE when they want. Whenever I read something like that, I think: "You never ever had experience in building a business and what it takes to become succesful." While years ago I thought: "I can drive some business on HIVE, ie integrate it with whatever, or create a new service with HIVE as a store of some sort", but I can not sell the concept of using HIVE to professional businesses. Too many HF. Too little transparency. Too much depended on a few people. Its beyond my comprehension, some to more of the devs are ok with their service having (frequent) hickups, or the chain not functioning for hours and hours, and sometimes weeks (like after last HF). Anyway, I think you understand the problems I see for HIVE and professional businesses.

Music: I don't think HIVE is the right chain for music services. It may be for the blogging, news side of music, but not to distribute music like some are now trying with 3Speak. I love what 3Speak is doing and planning to do, but I don't think music consumption works the YT/3Speak way, but much more like the Soundcloud, MixCloud and Spotify way. None of our services in the HIVE eco system offers something like these services. Dsound has a chance, but still, the service experience and features most be at least onpar with Soundcloud, or even better since the community is so small, therefore no professional in the music business will spend time on such service. When no professional, little influx of music fans. A few exceptions to the rule, as always :)

I keep it in mind, PeakD and the team. I may connect with them and see if they are open to support some bespoke developments. Thanks for the suggestion.

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We have lived the same experiences it seems!

I agree with you about HIVE and about the music too. Peakd seems to be a good supplement to share music with your crypto followers like with a Facebook page or Twitter profile but to grow your music following - Soundcloud, Spotify and Mixcloud for radio shows just shine the brightest and I've had the most success on Spotify in terms of listeners.

Dsound just seems to have faded. Others I've heard of are Emanate, ROCKI and Audius but too small an audience, mostly focused on producers and.. integrating crypto with music... I've seen many communities split over it.

It's Friday man, let's just chill and have a beer hey 🍻

Hahahaha indeed... way to serious talk for the Friday... That's why this comment comes onto the chain and to you on Saturday! 😉

Most (to all?) crypto based music platforms are geared to producers. Not to fans. Wondering though how producers earn money when it are not the fans using these platforms. Will also be a major block to real growth. Anyway, all these project owners and devs should work it out themselves 🙃

Cool you have some traction with Spotify. So many are just shitting on them, but I suppose these are the artist who believe their income should come from publishing music only. Anyway, their problems, not mine 😉

Wish you a great weekend.

Yeah man, pretty much agree with everything there!

The only thing I'd like Spotify to have would be a comments section like with soundcloud so that fans can comment with artists and the bond can be built from there. If they did that, there'd be no competition.

But like you say, I'll leave the comments about artists shitting on Spotify alone - they can always set up their own site 😁😶

Hope you have a great one too!

When Spotify would ad a comment section, this will indeed be an all inclusive service. But, I'll tell you as a music fan: I'll probably never will use the comment section, not to write, not to read. I know, some do, but many won't. If I was to be advising Spotify, I'll probably not advise to include a comment section. I may advise them to start experimenting with social elements more, maybe a blog at the side where artists are provided with a platform to provide news and updates to their fans. This service could have a comment section as well. But I see this service not integrated with the core of Spotifiy, but as an additional service. Ie no comment section under a track or album, but another 'vertical' service.

Many artists trying to earn money in crypto space, don't seem to understand one can only make money when the audience is large enough. And where audiences are large enough, a lot of artists push their work. To be able to stand out of the crowd, an artists shall use all business tactics we know to get an audience. That's why all sort of roles are at play in the music segment. Roles all these crypto music platform, as well as many artists seem to want to do without. It's sometimes too funny how idealistic people are while they don't even realise their they are idealistic :)

Yeah I guess my point was mainly geared around the social side of streaming on Spotify, not necessarily just a comments section. They do have a "highlighted" feature on the profile page that artists can edit and showcase new releases or events if anyone does browse someone's profile. I suspect most of the time, people just stream in the background though

I suspect most of the time, people just stream in the background though

Thats what I do :) And indeed, I suspect many. A comment section can be harmful for the service. Why you think so many news services, companies and all don't have a comment section? :)