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RE: an IDEA for Community Governance - Effective yet Decentralised

Apologies. i somehow missed your reply.

There is lots already written about #thematrix8solution

This is the hive community https://peakd.com/c/hive-153630/created

This post https://peakd.com/hive-153630/@atma.love/how-to-re-solve-most gives some links to some key posts to be able to get an understanding (to some extent).

And it's not all set in stone. Tweaking will be needed.

Questions welcome.

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Thanks for the shares.

I know Matrix8 has been around for quite some time, but until now, I didn't landed on a page that drew my interest. This time around, it is different. Read about the fractal approach. The true reputation. Tons of questions, many more than before reading the above. A remark and question: Isn't this matrix8 setup something Dan Larimer has been experimenting with in different forms in and around the EOS community? I never really followed in-depth, but I was always wondering about the results and experience. Back to Matrix8, the example I read with 8000 people. The different groups of 8, every single questionnaire feels to me like a process of months to year(s) to get something agreed. Can you show some example experiences? Any platform around where Matrix8 is brought to life and executed in reality? I found this website: https://matrix.org/ - is this one connected to Matrix8? That page/service seems to have quite a few app to participate. And traction you found in the hIVE community for - at least - some experimentations with such kind of decision-making? owwww, soooo many questions I have.

Thanks for reply. matrix.org is something else - a communication protocol for decentralised (well, federated) encrypted communucation.

The Matrix-8 Solution is only at whitepaper/blueprint stage. Need to recruit so enough peeps to experiment / adapt to get to MVP stage.

Re. Dan, yes he has something not dissimilar. Fractally, but now a different name (I forget what). It's been a couple of years since I followed and joined meetings. Differences I saw were lack of anonymity, and a limit of how many users could take part in governance (about 700 from memory). But at least it's a working platform.

As to the time to achieve consensus, of course depends on size of group and therefore no. of delegates meetings, but hours or even days I think could be achievable, depending in importance (and other factors) of the decision to be made.

There's a diagram I made I'm trying to find which includes some other factors which could be used, like weighting of votes (or even eligibility to vote) based on various factors including reputation score, KLU awarded for actions which have benefited the network, knowledge tests, etc. Please ask away with more Q's - not too many at once though as I can get overwhelmed :-)

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I think theory isnt enough; Testing (and tweaking) in real life is needed.
Even if those tests are done with limited functionality and scope.
Not sure what you have up your sleeve for such. I would think: Lower barriers as much as possible. Perhaps not include a token to be part of such setup.

Anekdote: earlier this year I met someone who is totally into Eigenlayer. He with 10 others did setup some art project. They shared the keys between the 11 founders. 7 keyholders need to agree to make changes to whatever they have secured with a key. When I understood this, I made the statement: "You likely need considerable time to get an ok, days if not weeks". His response: "Yea, we need to change things since we need weeks to get at least 7 peeps to act, and mostly we need to hunt them down to act". Why this little story? Because this is what needs to be taken into account: Most people wont be there when you need them. That is why I dont think for most decisions you can bank on a hour or few days A to Z, from debate to decision.

Above anekdote is perhaps the most important reason for me to suggest in field testing is required. And for that, some interesting (niche) project is to be created. Something that appeals to those participating. This can be anything. Could even be an small investment fund. Could be about decisions around HP of some account. Can be anything.

I wonder why 8? In law and finance and technology, always an uneven number is recommended.