I guess it's just that time of year, right? We're all a bit done with 2024. I feel like I'm ranting more than anyone on Hive, but perhaps I'm just offloading so I feel better. The thing is, I do feel okay, all things considered. Maybe it's just people doing stupid things close to Christmas.
See this tree? It's a 10,000 dollar 30 year old redgum. Redgums are freaking magnificent. They take years to grow. Aboriginal people used to smoke fish in the older giants and there are shield trees too where they'd cut them for shields and canoes. They're culturally Australia's favourite tree.
The two teen boys in the reserve thought it was magnificent to chop it down with an axe. We didn't catch them in the act, unfortunately, only put two and two together later, having heard banging noises in the reserve and then seeing the tree the next day. To say we were pissed off was an understatement. We told the council, mainly as we wanted the wood but didn't want to get blamed for it. Their mother picks them up every night at the end of the court. I think they are building cubby houses in the pines. We can't actually prove it was them, unfortunately, but what would happen? A rap on the knuckles? We could request some old fashioned justice, like hanging them from the telephone poles, but that's not allowed these days.
Besides, that kind of justice doesn't work. What people need is to feel connected to nature, to value it, to see it as important. Do that, and they want to protect it. Why their mother hasn't taught them that I don't know. Too busy? Doesn't care herself?
Because it's not just kids. I was talking to a guy in the carpark after a surf and he owns fifty acres on the edge of town. A couple bought the neighbouring property, moving down from Melbourne after COVID. One day, he heard a chainsaw. He immediately ran down the creek, where the two properties border. He calls it the enchanted forest, but it's just a small group of trees along a pretty waterway. His neighbour was mid felling a 250 redgum. He certainly gave him a talking to - they're worth thousands and thousands in fines, but you can instead offset it, planting replacement trees to the same value. The neighbours excuse was that he didn't like that tree. As my surf buddy said, that's irrelevant. The birds and insects like that tree. The bloody biodiversity of the area like that tree. The enchanted forest likes that tree. If it's in your view, fuck you. Seriously. There's things far, far more important than you.
The council arborist who came out to talk to us said there's quite a lot of incidents like this. I just feel so full of rage towards such idiots, and devastated too. This beautiful wild place we live in is turning into an insane metropolis where people move down here for the nature and proceed to destroy it.
Fuckety fuck fuck fuck.
With Love,
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This reminds me of the Sycamore Gap tree, which stood in a dip next to Hadrian's Wall in Northumberland, UK.
Some fuckers chopped it down.
The National Trust has managed to salvage seeds from the tree hoping they can get saplings to regrow. I'm not sure if they are going to replant them in the same spot but the actual stump is also sprouting shoots. The tree has been there since the 1800s so it was very sad.
Oh God I was in the UK when that happened. Made me feel so ill, I can't hardly imagine what people who loved it felt. Just awful.
Still can't get my head around it.
People are a cancer, as someone else said in the comments which supports a theory that I have. Sadly people can develop cancer but I also think the planet can develop cancers. We are all cells in the universe, including the planet and cancerous cells, ie stupid people exist.
It fucks me off and have come across people destroying stuff left right and centre and here in the UK where we are one of the most wildlife replete countries on earth; which in itself is shocking that this happens so often.
Councils do it, let alone individuals.
Uh oh, rant mode is going out of control.
Take tablets. Calm down Nick.
I've really noticed in the last fifteen years since I left UK how bad it's getting over there. So sad. And wildlife is also so much part of who you are at the same time.
Yup.
The property my parents bought a quarter century ago had been logged fairly heavily a decade or so prior to the purchase, and aside from a few stands of old trees, it was mostly 10 acres of scrubland. Over the years, lots of fir, pine, and spruce saplings sprouted up, but they grew so thickly that none had enough soil or light. These have been thinned over the years, and a few big old trees had to come down due to factors like disease or damage. However, the end goal is to have a healthy forest instead of the invasive weeds that predominated when we arrived.
A lot of folks here treat their forestland as a long-term crop, logging in sections and replanting, or selectively harvesting while maintaining some old trees. Douglas fir and larch are the gold standard for framing lumber, and scraps are used for engineered wood products like Oriented Strand Board and Truss Joists.
One of my library patrons had a legal spat with a neighbor who cut down trees on the wrong side of the property line. Here in timber country, that is a severe offense. Triple damages and court costs are on the lighter end.
I guess people understand the value of trees where you are.
Coppicing and stewarding the forest is a symbiotic relationship - monocultures and razing it all for profit is not.
People are just a cancer for this beautiful planet.
Keep ranting...it makes us people who still give a fuck
Sorry for the offense. We used to have such silly boys around us in the neighborhood. Worst of it, most of them can steal.
But I hope you don't hate me also 😀
I understand boys will be boys. But we have a responsibility to teach children to respect nature.
That is very right. That's where our responsibility as parents comes in. Have a good day
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I understand you, how do you feel, in my farm I have a little quantity of Brasil trees, which have been protect by my father and grow very fast but my neighborhood when need a little tools for their hand like an axe or a hammer, they cut my trees in a very young age, around 10 centimeters in size, it is very bad because the tree do not grown a lot.
This guy believes that one tree do not affect the nature, but yes only one tree could do a big difference.
Best regards.
Such people are a threat to Nature and humanity as well.
Cutting down a tree like that sickens me.
I have seen what happens when people start moving to an area, we used to be a small fishing town, but now there are no fish houses on the water, it is all a tourist trap, and there are only a few places that you can get to the water, the mangroves have all been cut down or killed. Canals have been dug and fish estuaries were cut off from the river. Every time they build a new house, they completely clear the land of all trees. They filled in the swamps and called them The Highlands.
Good luck getting the kids to make restitution, maybe you can get their parents to make them plant and care for trees.
Here it's the farm land. New England doesn't have a lot of good farm land for raising food. In this valley, the soil is the 7th best in the entire world. And it's being built on at a depressing rate. Exactly how do people think they are going to get food, if there's no decent soil left? Ok, end of rant.
But I get you, really I do.
I hate it when that happens. I mean the least we should do these days is chop down trees. It's quite a problem over here as well. Like a trim are okay but fully chopping it down to its root isn't not okay. Don't they not know its benefit and what not? it's so silly.
Self interest and ignorance I guess.
Those types of things are really frustrating. Having been a kid getting up to sketchy stuff.. I can relate but I was one to cut off a branch not the whole damn tree.
I think sadly it does go to the education of the kids and people around. They don’t know what goes on that’s really important and I wonder how we can improve that so we don’t get into those situations again? Knock on doors? That’s a tough one to figure out.
Better, post like an idjit on the facebook forums to get in a fight with random strangers online :P
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