ALL EXPERIMENTS PUBLIC AND PROVABLE ON CHAIN ALL DATA POSTED DIRECTLY FROM LAB EQUIPMENT ON CHAIN
Actually, many are actually public already, open access (more than 90% of all our publications), open source, etc.. But this is easy to say for particle physics and high-energy physics where no big money is in the game (unlike in pharma, to quote a single example).
However, at some point we need to trust peer review. We need an expert to correctly assess state of the art studies, i.e. someone who studied a given field for years and even decades. If their reports are online, it is even better (and it is the case in at least one journal I know).
From now, I will only answer what I can (because this is related to what I know precisely).
Cern data should be checked by other particle accelerators. They should have built like 2 or 3 of them in multiplr countries and they can all verify each others work
This would be a dream. However, we don't have funding to do that. This is the only reason why we only have only one running collider for now. To alleviate that problem, we have several independent collaborations taking data independently, through different detectors located at different parts of the accelerator. That's the only way we found to double check everything we do (a double check is always in order!). Moreover, all past results (thus independent) are also accounted for in any analysis. We need coherent results.
But noooooo we cant ever use blockchain dpos for science .... only for social media and banking but not science or healthcare lol
Blockchains cannot be used for everything. Depending on the goal, there are better solutions. For instance, If you aim to develop codes to analyse data, an option like github/gitlab is better. For my citizen science project, storing the results of simulation results on chain won't be an option (I can show you what they look like. I hope this could convince you we don't want to store thousands of files like that on chain (moreover, many format are not text-based, and thus impossible to push).
Blockchains are useful, but not for everything.
no, blockchain CAN be used for everything. youll see
and thats what we will use science hive for, thats what im saying
I agree that we will disagree on this :)
Blockchains are great, but depending on the problem we try to solve, they may not be the most appropriate tool. For instance, software development is better managed through a Git-like option (by the way, Hive is developed on GitLab).
yes and you dont see github gitlab software will be all hive based in teh future? WHy wouldnt it be? every action a user makes HAS to be on chain for security purposes ... its almost a crime that its not already
Github already had telos / eos logon wiuth https://tipit.io we proved it, i was using github as a wallet :D google image "tipit github ackza" LOL
In fact, I don't see really the "security" purpose here. Any action done is stored in the history. What would be the gain of a blockchain here?
PS: I have checked what tipit is. It has nothing to do with code development. I therefore do not see the connection.
no, we do, its called eosio and telos. you store them on amazon or whatever or local servers, and amazon can be replaced by telos Dstor.cloud its better than hive but based on dpos eosio which is based on steem so its related to hive
youll see
not everything is limited by hive
blockchains in future cheaper and easier than tyhe dinosaur storage ur talkin about
and yeah you need not just the data on chain but i said THE LAB EQUIPMENT should be custom made by ledger and lab pro :D
I do not know what telos or eosio are (I have no time to check out now). But please check what is the Worldwide LHC Computing Grid. I do not think any other option would work to replace this.
I don't understand the above sentence. Do you mind clarifying?
imagine if all the lab equipment that collects data has hardware blockchain ledger chips so you cant tampor with it is what i mean
like UN weapons inspectors style
so science cant be faked
eos is the thing teh steem / hive creator @dan larimer made for smart contracts and telos is an eosio chain liek a sister fork sorta, but not a fork
telos very science friendly we could get science funded using telos grants and proposals instead of the federal government one day
ooooh whata revolutionary idea i know lol
As I said, blockchains are useful, but they cannot solve any problem. I still keep to my words. I do not see what is the advantage of a chain compared with other methods.
For many scientific experimental devices (this is the relevant part when data taking is at stake), dedicated (centralised) infrastructures are often more suitable. For instance, for the LHC, see here. If you take Virgo/Ligo (gravitational waves), data is released 1.5 years after being taken so that anyone can use it and check it (see here).
Those are two examples I have in mind. For anything else that is not particle-physics-related, I of course cannot tell.