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I guess this is a non-issue. They don't own the trademark HIVE, as such a common word cannot be trademarked.
Also, they don't have a company to sue as we have no company. Just a few peeps running code on their PC.
When a trademark is owned, you have a legal obligation to chase behind the use of it. In this case the name is not trademarked, and as @ew-and-patterns states you cannot trademark too common words. They state that we profit of their good name, which is also something we could argue against because it's provably the own community that immediately switched and there is no profit to speak of to any specific or non-specific owner of the name.
I was thinking of the iOS situation that Apple sublicenses of Cisco as an example on how to deal with this peacefully, but when they don't have any trademark to begin with, I think the best way to go is call their bluff as any of us personally and maybe make a clear disclaimer instead, possibly working together to make each other stronger.
Even more, the company structure is an Ltd, which is a company structure in the USA that cannot use their name without mentioning the Ltd. We legally don't use the same name in any way, they are HIVE Blockchain Technologies Ltd., this blockchain operates under the concept of Hive that had prior art on Steem itself to indicate the community.
That said, I am not a lawyer and I can imagine that this won't be the end of it. But I am really interested if they want to go forwards with this whom they will appoint as representing the blockchain.
Actually, I think the problem is basically the ticker symbol Hive, which will probably confuse investors... Which might actually be a good thing for them...
This will go nowhere. Trademarks go by usage of the word, and this is a different usage. Plus there is no one to actually name, and you have to hire your own trademark attorney to file and pursue the case.
Anyone, small or great, deserves a voice.
But I believe mentioning them here is actually giving them credit and trafic.
Take care because their new business model could actually be this action, now they will speak about how it "impacted their business".
Publishing a cease and desist to their own page is because they can't target "a community fork". That's interesting news but I hope they will keep that to their own page.
edit : investigating their page shows, unless I am mistaken, that they have been a big bitcoin mining datacenter with huge difficulties at the moment, possibly going to lose the land they acquired in the past. Their activities were in mining, which is certainly why they were so silent in the past. I suppose their lawyers needed a case and they have one.
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I guess this is a non-issue. They don't own the trademark HIVE, as such a common word cannot be trademarked.
Also, they don't have a company to sue as we have no company. Just a few peeps running code on their PC.
Sounds like more publicity.
Why are you commenting on obvious trash copypasta spam scam accounts? :-)
More than 30 devs didn't see this coming?
They saw it as a potential hurdle, but deemed it a non-issue.
Well, it looks like it is.
I doubt it. Corporations and their IP fetish tend to result in a lot of noise over nothing.
When a trademark is owned, you have a legal obligation to chase behind the use of it. In this case the name is not trademarked, and as @ew-and-patterns states you cannot trademark too common words. They state that we profit of their good name, which is also something we could argue against because it's provably the own community that immediately switched and there is no profit to speak of to any specific or non-specific owner of the name.
I was thinking of the iOS situation that Apple sublicenses of Cisco as an example on how to deal with this peacefully, but when they don't have any trademark to begin with, I think the best way to go is call their bluff as any of us personally and maybe make a clear disclaimer instead, possibly working together to make each other stronger.
Even more, the company structure is an Ltd, which is a company structure in the USA that cannot use their name without mentioning the Ltd. We legally don't use the same name in any way, they are HIVE Blockchain Technologies Ltd., this blockchain operates under the concept of Hive that had prior art on Steem itself to indicate the community.
That said, I am not a lawyer and I can imagine that this won't be the end of it. But I am really interested if they want to go forwards with this whom they will appoint as representing the blockchain.
Actually, I think the problem is basically the ticker symbol Hive, which will probably confuse investors... Which might actually be a good thing for them...
I believe it is a ticker issue and ICO investors money behind it.
But afaik they don't have their own coin or whatever, it's about a stock exchange ticker symbol. Which is of course very confusing...
Hi. Why are you curating and commenting on evident trash copypasta spam scam accounts? :)
Because I can.
What a fucking mess!
This will go nowhere. Trademarks go by usage of the word, and this is a different usage. Plus there is no one to actually name, and you have to hire your own trademark attorney to file and pursue the case.
Non-starter. Carry on.
Is this their first ever action since 2017?
We certainly multiplied their trafic a thousand times and it still comes to no trafic: https://www.similarweb.com/website/hiveblockchain.com
Anyone, small or great, deserves a voice.
But I believe mentioning them here is actually giving them credit and trafic.
Take care because their new business model could actually be this action, now they will speak about how it "impacted their business".
Publishing a cease and desist to their own page is because they can't target "a community fork". That's interesting news but I hope they will keep that to their own page.
edit : investigating their page shows, unless I am mistaken, that they have been a big bitcoin mining datacenter with huge difficulties at the moment, possibly going to lose the land they acquired in the past. Their activities were in mining, which is certainly why they were so silent in the past. I suppose their lawyers needed a case and they have one.
Yeah, there is no way this would ever even get to a court let alone hold up in one.
Oh dear. What have we done?
But, is the Hive blockchain a legal entity? Can they stop it? Who can they sue?
#HiveisLive
Perhaps if forced we rename to Live! But google it first ....
They have a ticker on Yahoo https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/HIVE.V?p=HIVE.V and huge losses in 2019.
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