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RE: MIND BLOWING AND SHOCKING ABUSE REVEALED ON THE HIVE BLOCKCHAIN

in #hive3 years ago (edited)

Thanks for discussing in a friendly, sophisticated way.

If witnesses are perceived as being sensitive to the subject, that makes some sense to me since they have one of the biggest stakes in wanting the platform to be successful (not all of them, but many).

I wonder if you possibly might confuse things a little bit here?

Yes, I agree that in average big stakeholders naturally care more about their investment than smaller stakeholders, because they have more stake at risk and invested more (in case they aren't just early miners or former bid bot owners!).

And even if some of them act amazingliy short sighted and selfish instead of being long term orientated, in general I understand why they might react more sensitive on abuse (at least abuse commited by others not by themselves) which they think might lower the value of the blockchain, the platform, the currency HIVE.

However, I personally don't consider posting a good STEEM post on HIVE as abuse. Even if you disagree (which is fine with me), in this case their sensitivity has nothing to do with the wish to protect their stakes, but is simply the consequence of personal involvement and frustration. Yes, I can understand their anger (I know the whole story, I am here since 2016, and I think that neither Justin Sun nor the HIVE witnesses made a good figure during the conflict), but being angry on anybody shouldn't be a reason to force anybody else to be angry, too, and act accordingly. :) In my opinion their personal conflict with Justin Sun shouldn't lead to stricter measures against users who repost STEEM posts than for example against users who repost Instagram posts.
To be clear, I think STEEM is completely lost (you mentioned some reasons), but that's not the point here in my opinion.

I personally don't see that as a reason to also engage in the same behaviors myself though.

Well, of course not.
It's just ... if smaller users abuse the platform there is still some hope to solve the problem ... if the biggest ones are doing it (while at the same time fighting relentlessly against smaller, and often new and inexperienced users) then there remains not much to hope anymore from my side.

Well, I am a Splinterlands whale now (and withdrew about 400 k HIVE), a community which is much more decentralized than HIVE itself, due to many different, rather big stakeholders who act independently from each other, so that this typical HIVE oligarchy feeling doesn't exist.

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Thanks for discussing in a friendly, sophisticated way.

I was thinking the same thing haha 😄

However, I personally don't consider posting a good STEEM post on HIVE as abuse...

That's fair I think. To be honest, I don't know how I feel about it. I've abandoned Steem entirely at this point. One concern for me would be that if we want Hive to be a quality platform that people turn to for information and entertainment then we may not want any association with steem at all because if they are viewed as the same in any way then steems negative reputation will ultimately affect and cheapen Hive. If the same content is on both platforms then it compounds the situation as well, people will likely see them as the same, at least to an extent.

in this case their sensitivity has nothing to do with the wish to protect their stakes

I think I can agree with that. I can't speak about the actions of others but I can understand that people who were screwed over by Steem may hold a scorched earth policy towards it and may use their power to hurt it in any way they can, even if those actions hurt users of Hive. I'm not saying that I agree with it entirely just that I understand it.

if the biggest ones are doing it (while at the same time fighting relentlessly against smaller, and often new and inexperienced users) then there remains not much to hope anymore from my side.

I don't know from first hand experience if this is actually happening but Yeah, I can agree that hypocritical and double standard-like behavior isn't great. If a person is abusing a platform and at the same time condemning others for doing the same thing, that isn't great.

That's awesome that you are a splinterlands whale now. Good for you! I actually don't know much about splinterlands but definitely feel like I missed the boat with it. Haha

I don't know from first hand experience if this is actually happening but Yeah, I can agree that hypocritical and double standard-like behavior isn't great.

In my last real post in 2020 you can find my point of view, but on the other side: as long as you are happy and satisfied on HIVE I see no reason to spoil your user experience. So just enjoy posting!
I am 'hibernating' and may or may not come back - just let's see what future brings.
I admit that considered from a technological point of view HIVE is very advanced compared to all current concurrents (but also the planned social networks on Cardano and Solana will be interesting).

That's awesome that you are a splinterlands whale now.

I never really cared about these classifications but considering that I am currently ranked 9th concerning collection power, I guess this term isn't inappropriate.

I actually don't know much about splinterlands but definitely feel like I missed the boat with it.

Yes, of course it would have been an advantage to join before July/August 2021 after which card prices rose a lot, but I think it might still not to be too late.