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RE: Doesn't it seems like a too expensive and unproductive HOBBY to maintain?

in #hive6 months ago

Oh it was a rhetorical question, that stupid ass car was here when I left for my break.

That it is STILL here is what makes me a bit angry.

That said, I did follow some links you made and also double checked the proposals and I don't see the silly expensive "marketing" plan one that included the car or the fancy hotels for the elite "marketers" on the proposal list anymore. Maybe people realized what a HUGE waste of HUGE money that one seemed to be, as it never produced results and our user attrition has not only lowered, its higher than ever. Barely anyone coming in, and lots leaving over time. Definitely not the "rally" we paid for.

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That said, I did follow some links you made and also double checked the proposals and I don't see the silly expensive "marketing" plan one that included the car or the fancy hotels for the elite "marketers" on the proposal list anymore.

Sheesh! you are right. Perhaps I should have given you these links instead because they are a little more complete.

  1. From Ecency
  2. And from @proposalealert

But yeah, you are right. Even on these other two sites I just checked and couldn't find a proposal to finance the Rally Car. I don't know why it doesn't appear now, but I can almost swear that I saw it once. Well, to avoid sound a bit conspiratorial, let's say I saw it somewhere else.

Now, if I end up confirming that an onerous stipend of this nature of more than a million dollars from the community was never really elaborated and introduced through an official proposal or approved publicly and formally by general consensus for a hobby so expensive, useless and unproductive for the benefit and true growth of the ecosystem.

Don't you find it interesting to know how and why tons of money continues to be thrown in wheelbarrows at this project even to this day and who or whom are behind its approval?

I dug around, the proposal was "Value Plan" and it was only set for ten days and expired, but did get voted enough to win, so it probably made its 150K it asked for over ten days and went away again. It was up there like a week ago.

Blocktrades, Smooth, and etc., are behind the proposals that are approved, because they and their ilk have the bulk of Hive with which to vote.

"...user attrition..."

User attrition is necessary to maintain control of Hive governance by the oligarchy. Were Hive an attractive investment for IRL legacy money then some fatcat would just buy all the Hive tokens on the market for as long as it took and take control of the witnesses.

That's what created Hive, after all.

By driving people off the platform the oligarchy makes Hive unattractive to investors, and that alone enables them to retain control of governance of the plutocracy Hive is.

Ah the short sightedness of it all. But so it has always been, so it shall probably be.

Still gonna build my fun toys here like HiveStreams.live and run my team witness @pollenation with Enginewitty and participate. But for me, its a place to live and a community of smart people to commune with. So it would work without the money for me, all other things being equal. I don't like seeing "our" money being wasted though, on silly things that don't bring us more fun, or more people or more financial stability, but rather cost us all by taking money from things that COULD maybe bring those things via the sometimes very ridiculous DHF proposals we've seen. Like rally cars and copy-cat card games that cant make themselves profitable to begin with.

Ugh.

"...it would work without the money for me..."

As it does for me, as I do not use Hive as money. I am here for free speech, which is existentially necessary to our survival, and becomes moreso every day.

Do you live stream your free speech? Be a lot cooler if ya did :) Only 5 days old, be in on the ground floor! https://hivestreams.live :) My baybee - been working on it for about two weeks, quite literally around the clock. More and more features and improvements coming daily!

I speak here pseudonymously, because my kids have been shot at, I have been beaten in the street, been stripped of everything I ever owned, and worse, because of my IRL actions to illuminate corruption of local government and police.

Put up a slide show or a meme and talk over it, you can chat live with the listening audience, and they love that (proved it when I built MSP Waves in 2017 for PAL) even if you use video as a radio!

The radio could kill the video star!

I will have a look.

Thanks!

I had a quick look, and it appears to be a well designed and brilliant site. As a result of my experiences however, I have neither a mic nor a camera on my computer, and I do not use my phone for any data of any kind other than phone calls or text - and I am confident that is surveilled, so I do not carry a phone outside the home.

I have actually done everything I can to prevent video or audio from being exfiltrated from my home. While I might be able to stream images and live text, enabling real time chatting regarding items of topical interest, and your new site appears to be a real banger - congrats on it, because it is very much what Hive needs IMHO - I am just not your target content producer market due to extraordinary circumstances of my personal life.

All that being said, I confess to being extremely tempted to revise my efforts to secure my and my loved ones' safety specifically because of the site you have built and it's apparent utility in enabling forthright speech to be published.