What it's called or what the transactions look like really don't matter at all. The situation is very, very simple despite the attempts by those who were excluded to complicate it to serve their points.
Hive is a new chain and a new token. It used the history of the Steem chain and token as a starting point and adjusted the things that the creators wanted to adjust at launch. It makes no difference how exactly those adjustments were done or what it was called.
Does it suck that you and others were excluded? Yes. Do I personally agree with that decision? No. But in no possible way can it be reasonably construed to be stealing from anyone.
Matt,
You know that I appreciate all of the work you have done, and I respect you for it. I get what you are saying, but you must be able to see the logical shift here, right?
First it was argued (by you and others) that it was perfectly fine to remove users' stake because it was done through an airdrop. The stake wasn't actually taken. It was just never given to them.
Now it comes out that it wasn't even an airdrop, and the accounts did have a stake briefly, and the argument shifts and becomes those who were excluded are complicating things to serve their points. You must see the shift? How is it morally acceptable to do that? If it is so simple, explain it to me.
Obviously, I am going to argue when 20 thousand dollars are on the line.
I did explain it very simply:
Whether or not "airdrop" was the best term for it doesn't matter, and it also doesn't matter the exact mechanics of how the adjustment was handled technically. It's a new token, and it just wasn't given to certain people. It's not stealing and no amount of nitpicking the terminology or technical details will change that.
I am sorry if I have frustrated you.
No, it was just removed from some people's wallets. That is the point of this post. It was in the wallet, and then removed for some users.
I don't seem to recall saying that I think anyone stole anything. I am just pointing out that it was not an airdrop, and was the exact opposite. Tokens were not given out. They were copied from the records on Steem, and then removed for certain users.
Sorry if that seems like nitpicking, but to me, it is a complete 180 from what everyone has been saying happened. I feel like it deserves to be highlighted.
Perhaps we should wait to discuss this further in real life rather than on chain. As much as I love reading all of these comments, it is hard to keep track (I did not even realize that you had already explained your reasoning. Sorry about that). Furthermore, I think it is not good for me to immerse myself in this again. I do not enjoy the way I get after reading all of these comments. It does affect me.
Again, please forgive me if I have made you angry. That was not my intention.
Good night.