Hey folks,
Here is another update about HiveStreams.Live
Announcing another new, much anticipated feature!
Streamers can now press a button to make a quick and easy and editable "Going Live Now!" announcement auto-post to their Hive Blogs when going live!
For the moment, its just a pretty basic template, like this real auto-posted example right here!
Each post has your HSL Channel cover photo and profile photo, with the rest of this early draft version of the feature looking like my personal example linked above.
In the future, I will make it possible to completely style your own template, title, tagline, keywords, and so on for these in your channel settings and check a channel settings option box to make auto-posts like this happen or NOT happen as you wish whenever you start sending an actual RTMP feed to the HSL RTMP endpoint.
That coming update will allow you to optionally skip the button push step if you like, and just always let it post for new streams starting automagically when the server feels the force of your video feed's bits and bytes hitting its firewalls to be served to the people of the Hive!
For now though, the quick and easy "easy button" was to make, well, a button. That you have full control over. And that may always be enough for controlling it, but we still need to allow you to customize those posts in your HSL channel profile settings, and I am working on that too!
You'll find this new button conveniently located here on your "Start Streaming" instructions page, which is available from the link on your Channel Page when you are logged into your streaming account on HiveStreams.Live!
Now you can easily monetize those streams,
With posts!
With peer to peer direct tips!
With renewable, customizable Channel Patron Subscriptions!
And there's still so much more to come!
Here's how it looks and works:
You can click the post button just one time and the button will then change to a plain text message indicating that your post was successful, so that you don't accidentally click it twice. You'll also get pop up alerts for problems with auth or posting and a success alert on the corner of your screen when its all good too!
Until the auth is confirmed by keychain and the service posts and confirms posting of your blog for you via Keychain, the button will remain, so you can cancel from the keychain popup and nothing will happen till you say it happens!
Do note though, that if you reload this page in your browser, the button will reset and reappear regardless of previous posts or attempted posts with it, and thusly you could click it twice, so be careful and check your blog for a new post if you just aren't sure.
Once clicked and a post successfully made, the button will disable, and you can launch your stream per normal from OBS or your mobile studio app or however you've chosen to send your RTMP stream to HiveStreams.Live using the information on this same instructions page. The post is optional, it is not required to press this button to start a stream, only to announce to the world that it's ON NOW, Baby!
This feature is currently only working for Hive Keychain users, and is not yet developed for HiveSigner users, so my apologies for that, but my recent key tool usage poll shows me not many of you are using HS much anyway and I'll make all the auth tools you all prefer work equally well, as I proceed into and then finally finish the AIOHA integration discussed in a moment in this post below.
If you have questions about using this or any aspect of HiveStreams.Live, please do come ask in the HSL Discord!. Myself and others are already there and surely we can all work together to try to help you get going with live streaming!
In other HSL development news...
I have now got a proper development instance clone of the platform running so that I can accelerate building and testing new features and I have established an up to date private github development repo for some upcoming collaborative work that is in the works with some other eco-system apps.
I am always looking for ways to collaborate with other developers and ecosystem apps so that we can all offer you more and better capabilities on our collaborating platforms.
Stay tuned for that, it is all still in the very early discussions for now but let's just say that saving and publishing your live streams for post-show Video on Demand (VoD) replays in a Hive-centric and decentralized storage kind of way is probably coming sooner rather than later!
I also am beginning to break ground on replacing the dual HiveSigner/Hive Keychain login buttons with a single one that will support ALL the things via Hive's All-In-One-Hive-Auth tool called AIOHA.
I am trying to make it as easy as possible to get in and use it, and I look forward to looking at YOU and YOUR live content soon!
Until then, as always...
See YOU in the streams at HiveStreams.Live!
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This sounds great, @sircork! Is there a recorded copy of the stream which one can save or does that depend on the streaming software one is using?
[Edit : Had a look round the site and see that the streams seem to be saved. Very cool. ]
Currently, its up to the streamer to record their own copy and upload to 3Speak or similar, and/or simulcast to a VoD platform like YouTube which can consume the RTMP and encode it and store it for later retrieval, but as noted in all the posts, wheels are turning to use decentralized solutions such as IPFS and that option will be a reality in the coming future but its very expensive and not central to live streaming. Most "pro streamers" rarely publish their multi-hour lives and even fewer viewers tend to watch those, unless its an interview with somebody like Musk, Trump or some hot actor or actress, and even then, two days later, its old news.
Pro streamers save locally, edit down to highlight cuts and upload those as VoD for time shifted viewers to catch the important bits out of what can be a lot of wasted time if you aren't at the event live, like watching a streamer greet everyone in the live chat room or whatever for the first ten minutes of the live.
So no, not now, yes someday soon, discussions are underway with some potential partners to make that happen for Hivians using HiveStreams.Live as a facilitator for it on their streams, but HSL itself will not store live streams.
If they are simulcast or saved to another platform post show, then once I've integrated those connections, the stored replays that are handled to these external sites would be linked into the channel pages as if they were stored at HSL for "back catalog" playback, but in overall, its not a core purpose of a live streaming site to save and run potentially tons of simultaneous encoding servers for billions of very-very-very expensive gigabytes of never-watched-again 7 hour minecraft "lets play" videos. It's just too costly and not of any much additional value. 3Spk network is working on that with their node network opportunities to earn by running such servers for services like mine, but its not a small task, its rather herculean in effort, scale, scope and cost.
If someone is producing pre-recorded content, the first stop should likely be 3Speak. They do the VoD thing as core purpose, where HSL serves the live show/live audience crowd.
It is possible to live stream pre-recorded content. I'm currently looping a local version of the classic old film Reefer Madness on my live channel, sending it live via OBS from my desktop. Its on loop so that there is a stream running concurrently with this fresh post about the site.
Also the last time I checked before supper a while ago, another user was also streaming his game play and webcam overlay while discussing his gaming in German, so that's a good example of a live, audience interactive stream, that no one would bother to watch a recording of tomorrow when he will likely be live again anyway, since he tends to stream every day for hours.
Make sense?
Absolutely. This streaming stuff is a bit new to me from a users perspective.
Awesome
To your edit, no, they are not saved. I did fail to mention in my last comment, you can save a small channel trailer for now, till I run out of 500gigs of disk space on the server and have to solve that problem too, but users are limited to 500mb uploads which means just a clip, teaser, trailer, commercial spot type thing to explain your channel to browsing viewers.
The goal is to move storage to de-cent IPFS systems via Hive ecosystems partner offerings or something like StorJ if I have to reach outside the Hive chain/tokenomics to make it possible.
Great stuff, @sircork! A wonderful addition to the HIVE Project!
Thank you very much! I've been burning a ton of midnight oil on it. Round the clock as much as possible for a few weeks now, it's starting to come together!
Love seeing the progress! Getting better all the time!
Working on it day and night. Every moment I can scrounge up really. Thanks for the interest!
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I'm curious, what's the difference? I mean, what exactly makes logging in with Keychain or HiveSigner different in order to access these features?
Completely different libraries with different instantiation, file includes, operational processes like one doesn't use a browser extension, its linked out to a totally different website while the other is built into your browser via an extension. My site has to talk to them and listen to them in completely different ways. Times five for all five or so popular key management tools. Which is why Im going to swap them all out and go to AIOHA which solves that by giving MY software one tool to talk to, and users use whichever of the key services they want inside AIOHA which in turn keeps up with speaking five tools interfaces and response platforms.
For every task:
Login
Vote
Post
Comment
etc
I would have to write ALL the auths out separately, switch through them programmatically for the one the user is choosing to use, auth them, confirm stuff and then pitch the chain request in the tools preferred ingestion format and method. It sucks. See my keychain poll post for some pseudo code that explains all this visually. as well as details about what AIOHA is and how it solves it via mention of it there and in this post via its link as well.
Ah ok, I see. Well, then let's wait a bit until AIOHA is full integrated within your site and you can get rid of a lot of headaches. :)
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