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The wall is just the talking point that all the opposition uses as their counter argument. Trump's plan includes far more than a wall, the wall is just a part of it and an additional barrier to entry. The plan also includes more border agents, more judges to speed up immigration and refugee cases, security technologies, and more.

People argue against the wall use weak fallacies to support their case. Most often the nirvana fallacy. "The wall won't stop everyone" "40% of illegals overstay their visas" etc. Just because it isn't an all-in-one solution to the whole problem doesn't mean we shouldn't have it. It's just one piece of a bigger plan. All of which was supported by the Democrats until Trujmp came to office. That's the most amazing part. Every Democrat in office before Trump was elected voted for a wall and additional border security. Now, that Trump is pursuing it, they don't want it anymore for some strange reason.

And you can only do so much about what the migrants are running from without being an occupier or subverting them. There's a reason some countries are terrible and it's not our jobs to fix them. We can't be responsible for the world especially given the many problems we have right at our front doors. Like our $20 trillion of debt and $100+ trillion of unfunded liabilities.

Well that is not what this post was about. Please take your arguments elsewhere.

I was just responding to the reaching across borders comment. It sounds nice, but it's not always the case.

Those on the other side are people too. Nationality is just an accident of birth.

I agree. But every nation has their own goals and agendas. Its reckless to assume everyone has the same intentions of you. Humans are tribal and biological creatures. Resources are finite. The world is tough.

Of course reaching across borders to other western nations makes sense as we all have pretty similar interests and governance with few exceptions. But outside of that it gets pretty tricky. :P

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