As Stefan keeps mentioning, they are siphoning money from the economy and from welfare programs. If that is the reason they are immigrating we should cut off welfare to them. If their reasons for immigration is work and they have no intentions on drawing public assistance then it is no one's business why they are here. If we shut off the welfare programs the leeches will quit coming over and the ones that do will be here for the right reasons.
We, as a nation, do not have an immigration problem. We have a welfare problem.
Exactly. Adam kept trying to say we need to focus on the government as the initiator of aggression in the case of increased welfare load, not the immigrants. That'd make sense if the immigrants were declining welfare (they aren't) or they didn't know where the money was coming from (they do). Stefan should have pushed that point harder rather than argue about other things for almost two hours.