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You're right. You, or anyone saying "cars could run in gas" doesn't give you any rights that you didn't already have.
First of all cause everyone already knows that. This is what's known a "prior art".

You can't get a patent on something unless it's "Novel" i.e. not already known to those who would know such of things i.e. not "prior art" e.g. if it was some kind of a clock it would have to be unknown to the people who make, sell or work with clocks and the likes.

An second: you would have to have been granted a patent (which is a long and expensive process. Like a long court trial in which you've as much chance of loosing as winning) and if you loose you've wasted an awful lot if time and money for nothing.

And also, say if it wasn't known that cars could run on gas, You couldn't just ask the patent office to grant you a patent on a car that runs on gas. You'd have to clearly document exactly how this car runs on gas, including drawings (blueprints)that any car engineer could understand and reproduce in physical form.

I just don't see it being right or moral to say well I made this first so now anyone who makes this must be stopped. That is just wrong if I can make a car then the car is mine not someone elses because they thought of the idea ... Sorry I used my resources to make this car so it's mine you cannot tell me I can't sell it or use it. Patents stunt innovation and that is not good when a drug gets patented it never gets improved and that is because there is no competition and competition is key

You keep going back to the same arguments. You don't seem to be reading or at least understanding what I've been telling you.
If we can't move forward in this conversation I think we should forget it as we seem to be getting nowhere.

"That is just wrong if I can make a car then the car is mine not someone elses because they thought of the idea"

You seem to be forgetting that you couldn't have made the car if they hadn't thought of the idea, which means that the idea is an essential ingredient of the car without which it simply couldn't exist.

So as I said before, If you think the inventor of your car isn't entitled to any share of it's ownership then you must have a perverted sense of morality and fairness.

So if I wear a orange shirt should I be entiltled to be compensated if someone wants to dress like me? I mean I thought of the outfit orange shirt and blue pants so nobody should be allowed to do the same unless I say? Thats just crazy

That's complete nonsense.

Have you checked any of the links I have sent you?

Yes...and I think they are wrong and idiotic