I'd be glad to join you guys, but I'm not a Democrat and I'm not a Republican... I'm not Liberal, or a Conservative... I'm some where in the middle, or even outside of it all... I'm not Anti-Government, but I am Anti-Corrupt-Government... If I had to choose a party it would be the Anti-Incumbent Party...
I have studied Propaganda extensively both in formal education studies and outside of academia... I really enjoy writing about propaganda, but my writing will occasionally step on toes from both sides of the aisle... I will not stick around if people in the group become snarky with me, and I expect support if attacked... from outside the group, or inside the group...
I once formed an online group and this was our credo, that I still live by,
Ridiculed for not following the herd.
Dispised for speaking reason to emotion.
Ostrized for rejecting popular memes.
We are The Scorned.
If that works for the members... count me in...
Sure thing :) We are all oriented towards the truth and getting rid of the propagandist lies that Mega Corporations have control over. The only way for humanity to advance is if we have the power to learn the truth. MSM/Big Government takes that away from us!
Truthforce, I appreciate what you are trying to do. I believe we are after the same thing. That being said I just have to warn you that I will be trying to convert you for awhile. I do this all the time and everyone ignores me and blows me off. I guess it just is not time. I am trying to figure out a way to kick off my plans by myself since everyone in the last ten years I preach my little sermon to seems to have better things to do. I’m rambling, sorry. Anyway if you want to win and win big read my blog. If you have questions, I love questions. I just can’t get anyone to ask them. Sorry if I sound like I am complaining. I just typed these words so many times. Today I listened to Vince Armani I think it was. He was getting warm. I emailed him. 5 bucks says I never hear back. Anyway thanks for all you do. Yes, I think I’m trying to guilt you into reading my blog, ha ha.
That's one of the things that I see here on steemit that is really missing, in comparison to the other blog sites I've been on. Discussions can be as good or even better than the articles that begin the discussions. In my experience, if a person or group of people become known for having interesting and deep discussions, they can pick far more followers than just a single author may generate. I used to have a group that would play to the audience of Lurkers and generate many views and complements. On average on my old site, I know that about 65% more people read the articles and discussions I posted, than ever commented or voted.
Decent conversations are rare on the Internet, so rare that people are starved for decency and deep insights.
I love you comments; “In my experience, if a person or group of people become known for having interesting and deep discussions, they can pick far more followers than just a single author may generate” and “Decent conversations are rare on the Internet, so rare that people are starved for decency and deep insights” I really believe this to be the truth.. Is it the element of accomplishment? Is it the insight? If what you say is true then why isn’t is being leveraged to our advantage? This is my frustration. I don’t believe we are walking through the all the new doors technology has opened for us. Contrast all this to the propaganda/news sites that have shut down their comments section in the last year or so. Why? I believe this was a fatal mistake for them going forward. All of this supports my thesis that we live in a world dominated by individual intelligence. What I am trying to get this author above to understand is that a collective intelligence would be everything you said on steroids.
When you say "trying to convert me for awhile" What does that mean?
Great question, ha ha! You will have to read some of the articles on my blog to completely understand. If you do understand, it will completely change your world view. I guess what I want is for people to see the futility of debate in a world I see dominated by what I call, individual intelligence. I gave up on politics and public debate. Instead I want to focus on the root of the problem and that is our total butchery of human logic in our day to day relations and dialog. Doing this means looking into a future of a collective intelligence. The idea is that for truth (logic) to prosper we must change the playing field or the environment in which it is expressed. Krazyuncle had some great comments here. Will his comments be relevant, front and center a month from now? Were they productive? Were they Integrated into our perceptions of truth? No humans just squabble until they’ve had enough and then they kill each other. I just want to make a better wheel. Here is a snippet of something I typed in a reply earlier today that might help. I hope you will spend 10 minutes on my blog though: ” I believe there are “reasons” why we believe what we do. That word reason points to logic. For me human logic is really the door and technology is the key. The real issue for humanity I see is that until now we subsisted as individuals. That’s was normal evolution. 1. If you wanted to share the logic of your ideas you put it in print. Print stacks up, gets dusty and becomes yesterdays news. Technology solves this. Our Questions would be a work in progress, always available, always open for revision for perpetuity. 2. A big issue is individual power. If you consider the entirety of human logic within the whole of the human race, you will see that no individual possess it all, just a portion. That individual may possess great power or authority though. This power I believe competes with the expression of human logic. Technology would solve this, if; a. anonymity was the guise of everyone within the system (whatever that would be) b. Human logic was the moderator. What this all comes down to is the ability of humanity to form together more solid and logical viewpoints and to arrive at insight any one individual may miss, honestly or dishonestly. It could be about anything, what roof to put on your house. A Collective Intelligence as I see it would be what you mentioned earlier about the insightful dialog just greater. I often characterize it as a sort of Artificial intelligence.”
Our group is a voluntary decentralized human collective intelligence ;)
What you have to understand is that the world of human intellect is broken. Human logic is fractured and disfunctioinal. This is hard for people to see because they were born Into this world. They can’t understand because it has always been this way. I believe that is why societal norms and support are so important. They serve a need. So when you battle the other side they are not really going to hear you as long as they feel part of a group. They will reject the message because of the messenger. You have to build a Death Star, a good Death Star. An intelligence formed of humanity. Authoritative because it is totally unbiased 100% and it utilized human logic efficienttly as a moderator between perspectives and viewpoints. It will be a black hole for hate and lies. I thought throwing in "Death star" and "Black hole" might get the young guys on board
I wouldn't say fractured, but very warped right now, because of unscrupulous people trying to change the wheel.
The real problem is that people cannot see the logical conditions because the ability to do so has been monkeyed with. 200 years ago they didn't have the problem of seeing the logical conditions as we do now.
This is why the truth is important, because if we are to get to the point where we can use reason, we first must have that ability that allows us to see the logic. After all logic is the condition you find things in and reason is what happens when you change those conditions.
What we are seeing in the world of logic and reason is a direct result of the inability to see clearly the conditions, which means that there is no reason that can be based on what you cannot see.
I hope everyone understands just how important it is to have a united front and support for all...
I've never posted anything on Reddit, but I'm sure that there will be roving gangs of trolls and partisans ready to do their thing... we need to be ready to be strong and united... divided we will be just like everyone else... I seriously doubt we are the first to try this...
Hey I don't know why but I have a feeling you might relate to my blog. I was a Ron Paul Republican who went to the state convention twice. I am now a Independent. I appreciate what they are attempting here, I just believe in fighting fire with water, not fire. The only way I see to truly overcome is to change the playing field. Anyway, if you get time. Thanks
I'll be by, feel free to stop by my blog as well...