Oh yes, Stan ... the formality, thanks for reminding. I just followed you back, also.
btw, I, just like yourself also experienced effects from the youtube 'adpocolypse', with adsense arbitrarily changing the terms to 'no revenue' until after ten thousand views. New artists (or any youtubers who don't immediately 'go viral') would typically wait years before seeing a penny in this scheme ... Actually I'm an old (in reality 'mid-life') artist who finally prioritized music as a 'bucket list' item ...
I'm sticking it out on yt for the time being for these three reasons ... Dtube collects 'royalties' (you may say) for only the first week, whereas, providing YT doesn't capriciously change terms (which of course, it's proven a bad track record for that so far...) it pays ad revenue in perpetuity (theoretically). I'm fairly close to the new bar they set for ten thousand total views before adsense kicks-in (a new rule as of April 2017)... and lately I've been suffering with a Dtube "Error while submitting to the blockchain" ... I've asked around and no one has any suggestion that gets rid of this so far. I may need to set up IPFS which I will once I get a machine I'm willing to commit as a 'shared resource' (amongst well-deserving individuals, it seems) but my first upload to Dtube was difficult, but did finally go through without IPFS, so I'm mostly confused on the matter now ...
We have been well over the new threshold for quite awhile and have never been approved yet. It just says in review for months now. I don't think they will ever approve us so we quit putting content there.
For the error your getting you need to log into d.tube diffferently
You use your steemit id then for your password, go to your steemit wallet, click on permissions you use the posting key for your password on d.tube that will fix your problem
Wow great!!! I really appreciate this tip, Stan!! OK, I'll give it a shot, next time I try an upload... But I think you've found it.... If my memory serves me correctly, I did use my steemit password for the 'successful' DTube upload, and in these latest failed attempts, I used the Private Posting Key ... I think you found 'the key' to my problem, I am indebted to you!
...and I appreciate your 'heads up' ... I presumed your YT channel was related to 'home improvement/custom woodwork' and one would think there would be lots of advertisers ready to cut you an endorsement deal as you obviously have an established fan base (Congratulations!) ... If that's so, I'm likely sunk there, my music videos, if not 'artistic/avant garde' can be Rock with social/politcal commentary, 'ad guidelines' being as such...
So, from what you're saying, they went from "We'll review your account when you get 10,000 views" to "No adsense until 1000 subscribers and 4000/month views"?!
Hmm, and our content that gets seen on YT Red ... YT does effectively accumulate revenue on our content ... I wonder if that happens to us both or perhaps an entire class of youtube content providers, whose terms of service seem to change at a whim ...
Not 4000 views but 4000 hours of viewing so if your videos are only 12 minutes long that would be 20000 views if each person watched the entire video. Or another way to look at it would be 12000 people watching 20 minutes of you content per month. Or if you have the 1000 subs required every subscriber would have to watch a full 4 hours (20-12 minute videos per month).
It takes me 1.5 hours to upload 7 minutes to youtube. Do that math????? That would take me 51 hours to upload 20, 12 minute videos. Not counting the time to render and produce it. That would mean you would have to produce 4 hours of content every month for your 1000 subs and they all would have to be 100 percent faithful. They are pretty much just wanting to eliminate everyone that doesn't already have a following. The sick thing about it is most of the content is shit or stolen and hardly any good content is available. There is some good but most of it is shit.
They just rip us off just like we get ripped off here. The only ones with a voice here have either bought their way in, mined to riches or have been able to manipulate the system with shit content and paid for upvotes.
The rest of us are just screwed just like in the world! Steemit is just a mini version of the Predator vs prey world we live in. They even let every one know that by telling them they are minnows and whales. But they kinda misrepresent the whales........ but not killer whales.
Well there, in all my pessimism I actually stated it too optimistically ... that's 4000 hours not views, I stand corrected!!!
So realistically, any money in 'the lean years' would come from crypto/blockchain establishments like steemit, as you say, youtube adsense has no intention of managing 'smaller accounts' ...
Yeah, considering it's difficult to get more than 20% (one-fifth) of subscribers to regularly watch more than 4 minutes (one-fifteenth of an hour) a week ... Anyone shouldn't expect any steady adsense revenue stream from anything less than about 75,000 subscribers just to meet their minimums(4000=75,000/5/15x4weeks/month)... ('viral' is not 'steady', I've seen a few channels that went back down to '300 average views' after a ~100K view 'pop')
I still haven't quite figured the lay of the land here, I haven't really been trying to 'game' the system here myself, so cozying-up to the right whales (if at all a desirable behavior) is something I have yet to strategize, and I can't get over feeling something horribly wrong about buying 'votes' (could be like google getting one to buy adwords to make adsense revenue -- sounds like the old 'franchise opportunities' ... great if you like fast food ;-)
Mainly going about it as a labor of love, my love of jazz is mainly what drives this passion, that I want to grow/acquiesce into, not 'standing on tip toes/ walking on eggshells' as we often see some youtubers going into a crash-and-burn phase (from pewdie pie to onision, the stress of maintaining such a lofty persona gets to them).
Oh yes, Stan ... the formality, thanks for reminding. I just followed you back, also.
btw, I, just like yourself also experienced effects from the youtube 'adpocolypse', with adsense arbitrarily changing the terms to 'no revenue' until after ten thousand views. New artists (or any youtubers who don't immediately 'go viral') would typically wait years before seeing a penny in this scheme ... Actually I'm an old (in reality 'mid-life') artist who finally prioritized music as a 'bucket list' item ...
I'm sticking it out on yt for the time being for these three reasons ... Dtube collects 'royalties' (you may say) for only the first week, whereas, providing YT doesn't capriciously change terms (which of course, it's proven a bad track record for that so far...) it pays ad revenue in perpetuity (theoretically). I'm fairly close to the new bar they set for ten thousand total views before adsense kicks-in (a new rule as of April 2017)... and lately I've been suffering with a Dtube "Error while submitting to the blockchain" ... I've asked around and no one has any suggestion that gets rid of this so far. I may need to set up IPFS which I will once I get a machine I'm willing to commit as a 'shared resource' (amongst well-deserving individuals, it seems) but my first upload to Dtube was difficult, but did finally go through without IPFS, so I'm mostly confused on the matter now ...
Anyway, best of luck to you!
We have been well over the new threshold for quite awhile and have never been approved yet. It just says in review for months now. I don't think they will ever approve us so we quit putting content there.
For the error your getting you need to log into d.tube diffferently
You use your steemit id then for your password, go to your steemit wallet, click on permissions you use the posting key for your password on d.tube that will fix your problem
Wow great!!! I really appreciate this tip, Stan!! OK, I'll give it a shot, next time I try an upload... But I think you've found it.... If my memory serves me correctly, I did use my steemit password for the 'successful' DTube upload, and in these latest failed attempts, I used the Private Posting Key ... I think you found 'the key' to my problem, I am indebted to you!
...and I appreciate your 'heads up' ... I presumed your YT channel was related to 'home improvement/custom woodwork' and one would think there would be lots of advertisers ready to cut you an endorsement deal as you obviously have an established fan base (Congratulations!) ... If that's so, I'm likely sunk there, my music videos, if not 'artistic/avant garde' can be Rock with social/politcal commentary, 'ad guidelines' being as such...
I just found out that they have a new Subscriber threshold 1000 and hours viewed in the past month 4000 hrs. Good luck with that Google. Assholes!
So, from what you're saying, they went from "We'll review your account when you get 10,000 views" to "No adsense until 1000 subscribers and 4000/month views"?!
Hmm, and our content that gets seen on YT Red ... YT does effectively accumulate revenue on our content ... I wonder if that happens to us both or perhaps an entire class of youtube content providers, whose terms of service seem to change at a whim ...
Not 4000 views but 4000 hours of viewing so if your videos are only 12 minutes long that would be 20000 views if each person watched the entire video. Or another way to look at it would be 12000 people watching 20 minutes of you content per month. Or if you have the 1000 subs required every subscriber would have to watch a full 4 hours (20-12 minute videos per month).
It takes me 1.5 hours to upload 7 minutes to youtube. Do that math????? That would take me 51 hours to upload 20, 12 minute videos. Not counting the time to render and produce it. That would mean you would have to produce 4 hours of content every month for your 1000 subs and they all would have to be 100 percent faithful. They are pretty much just wanting to eliminate everyone that doesn't already have a following. The sick thing about it is most of the content is shit or stolen and hardly any good content is available. There is some good but most of it is shit.
They just rip us off just like we get ripped off here. The only ones with a voice here have either bought their way in, mined to riches or have been able to manipulate the system with shit content and paid for upvotes.
The rest of us are just screwed just like in the world! Steemit is just a mini version of the Predator vs prey world we live in. They even let every one know that by telling them they are minnows and whales. But they kinda misrepresent the whales........ but not killer whales.
Well there, in all my pessimism I actually stated it too optimistically ... that's 4000 hours not views, I stand corrected!!!
So realistically, any money in 'the lean years' would come from crypto/blockchain establishments like steemit, as you say, youtube adsense has no intention of managing 'smaller accounts' ...
Yeah, considering it's difficult to get more than 20% (one-fifth) of subscribers to regularly watch more than 4 minutes (one-fifteenth of an hour) a week ... Anyone shouldn't expect any steady adsense revenue stream from anything less than about 75,000 subscribers just to meet their minimums(4000=75,000/5/15x4weeks/month)... ('viral' is not 'steady', I've seen a few channels that went back down to '300 average views' after a ~100K view 'pop')
I still haven't quite figured the lay of the land here, I haven't really been trying to 'game' the system here myself, so cozying-up to the right whales (if at all a desirable behavior) is something I have yet to strategize, and I can't get over feeling something horribly wrong about buying 'votes' (could be like google getting one to buy adwords to make adsense revenue -- sounds like the old 'franchise opportunities' ... great if you like fast food ;-)
Mainly going about it as a labor of love, my love of jazz is mainly what drives this passion, that I want to grow/acquiesce into, not 'standing on tip toes/ walking on eggshells' as we often see some youtubers going into a crash-and-burn phase (from pewdie pie to onision, the stress of maintaining such a lofty persona gets to them).