This is big guys. Matt is the guy who just sponsored the event that Michael and I spoke at in Hollywood (as described at SovereignHero.com). Now he's bringing all that marketing power to Steemit and BitShares and the HERO revolution in the form of a game with a big prize. This will undoubtedly bring a big influx of new users and big boost in value - i.e. how much we all earn from posting and curating everything.
How 'bout some help for Matt in learning how to use the Steemit and BitShares blockchains for a whole new world of use cases?
this asshole is the person who scammed people for millions of fucking dollars too If you do a quick Google search with Matt's name you'll find that about half the results are scam reports and warnings. Here are just a few:
All I know is he delivered one helluva great value in Hollywood. I'm loving that he is applying that technology to drive attention to our blockchains. Gameification is the future of marketing and his whole company (which I have met and worked with) will become a powerhouse in the industry. Nice to have all that driving new people our way.
selling SEO products for $49,999 is shameful. There's nothing of value in doing that:
but without already having those skills, I will say now why i KNOW your product is a scam;
$49,999 for an online product is RIDICULOUS! what value does it has? how does it differ from other personal development program?
You said that your program is "endorsed" by the Steemit devs. We'd know what our Devs says. And they DO NOT ENDORSE your program. you outright lied to your webinar participants.
You incessantly avoid crucial questions. Where is your supposed "Gold Contract"? what is the protocol on your KARMA KOIN, how to you avoid double spending.. these questions were asked one way or another. All of them unanswered by you.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY $99 Dollars for "access to Steemit". That is outright scam. There is another term IRL (in real life) called Ticket Scalping. I cant find a better term to described what you did.
First day on Steem, and you called someone an "Asshole". NOT COOL!!
What is this supposed "Game". Did you have a developer at all? $49,999 on a beta product sounds too steep dont you think?
You guys sound a lot like the naysayers calling Bitcoin a scam back when there was not yet any infrastructure or on ramps. If you were not a miner, it was much easier and far less intellectually challenging to just call it a scam then to try and figure out the "coloring outside of the lines" ways of buying it while it was still selling in the single digits. Thank God I didn't listen to your knee jerk reactions and started buying bitcoin for $5 in 2011
Bitcoin was launched by a genius cryptoanarchist. Mogul is (or was going to be) launched by a serial scammer. There is quite big difference, don't you think?
You have absolutely no idea by whom Bitcoin was launched. To claim you do is to display your lack of credentials to add anything meaningful to the discussion here. Good God, man, do you expect us to believe every claim on tv, radio, and online? Do you not know that there are highly paid disinformation specialists? And amateurs like you with names to make for themselves or bloated egos to feed.
calling Bitcoin a scam back when there was not yet any infrastructure or on ramps.
How can you even compare the two? Bitcoin was open-source since 2009. There was no person going around asking other users for $10-$50,000 without any proof or details to be a part of the network.
I have first-hand experience with Matt's team the past month. Awesome great content in Hollywood. I watched the team solve problems from the inside. I want to see those technologies applied to bring the world to our blockchains.
You know who you remind me of right now? Your son. He refused to see that the Dollar was actively scamming people out of money. It was hard to watch......because he wanted to believe that he was a good man. He's not.
I once had a wise and faithful counselor who advised me to play the game for where things will be when the dust settles. I'm content to do that now. No point in arguing about it in the mean time.
Super genius types are not always the best judges of character. Naive and good, trustworthy people such as yourself sometimes may have a hard time seeing reality, especially when involving your fantasy ideas of your own success. I would appreciate if you at least spent time educating yourself about Matt's past. Other scam artists have found a nice cozy home on here, and are still ripping off people. It's best to be wise about forming partnerships, as you are putting all of us at risk if you choose not to look with a critical eye.
I have good connections with good people in Los Angeles, who work with big names. Maybe you should find trustworthy people yourself, and form connections. Partnering with people who you barely know seems like a bad idea.
"It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently." -- Warren Buffett
In December 1912, J. P. Morgan testified before Congress in the so-called Money Trust hearings. Asked to explain how he decided whether to make a loan or investment, he replied, “The first thing is character.” His questioner skeptically suggested that factors like collateral might be more important, but Morgan replied, “A man I do not trust could not get money from me on all the bonds in Christendom.”
This game is a scam, i think, because it sounds really fishy to me. i will think differently if you would anwser me some questions.
Where does the money come from?
Why should we trust a person with a past like this?
And some more.
@stan@abit@thejohalfiles@fuzzvest how are you guys taking this seriously. There is nothing of any real value here. Have you not heard the empty promises of a conman before? You might want it to be true but it just clearly isn't. As my dad used to say, what a crock of horseshit!
Who cares about an event in Hollywood? Why are you afraid to address the very real criticisms being lodged here. You are blindly supporting an obvious scam based on the fact that you partied with the guy?
Wow. Why u think the guy has no integrity? It seems u guys are being a bit hard on someone who just did one of the best promotional works for our tech since dan made steem.
I waited to see what would happen before passing judgement, but upon reading the initial post I was suspicious.
Then the guy bailed before 24 hours were up after making such a grand post, made threats of what appeared to be legal action simply because some people were pasting links to claims on the internet and asking questions in the comments.
It was a huge overreaction for anyone that was acting in good faith in my view. And it was a classic scammer reaction when they've been caught in their game.
I would never put money into this persons ventures. Spend a little, wow the unsuspecting ... all for the big con later.
That's only because a lot of noobs have decided to trust Matt. To intensify their trust, it is important to reject the haters. And reject them openly. That post does exactly that. A classic Internet Marketing style.
I cannot believe Stan is backing this type of person. But then again, geeks are not really good at identifiying conmen........just look at The Dollar and Dan.
@stellabelle Why do people keep accusing @dan of being a scammer? He's been working in the crypto space for years, he's doing public presentations all the time, would a scammer do that after being caught publicly? I don't get it, got a link with accusations or something? It keeps coming up....
I warned him there would be trolls. He's the kind of guy who attacks when attacked. Doesn't prove anything. I'm interested in seeing if it works as a troll containment strategy. Probably not, but as a game master he certainly has the right to keep that kind of stuff from infecting his game.
How is he a game master? He mentions nothing of the game. He appears to be trying to sell "how to's" of a game before it exists which doesn't make sense.
Very responsible behavior and instant trust for me to place my money on...
if it works as a troll containment strategy.
You contain trolls by ignoring them. 14 year olds streaming on twitch know how to deal with trolls better than @matttrainer. If he can't handle a few criticising comments on a decentralized platform, good luck on all others.
So much fun and so many games the past week I hardly know where to begin! A how-to guide to risk-free wealth accumulation devoid of any jail-time whatsoever, if you know the right people, of course...
I don't think he quit.
I think he's taking his innovative ideas elsewhere.
Steemit had its chance.
I warned him this would happen.
But he just loved the idea of Steemit too much.
Had to learn the hard way.
But what about all that work integrating it into the STEEM blockchain? How can someone just throw that amount of development away completely, and only 4 weeks from launch?
Exactly. This is how we know it's complete and utter bullshit. That's because the only infrastructure in place is the ICO that he launched. Pretty smart move for a scammer, scam unregulated currency and come away scot free.
My mom spends hours a day online doing surveys. I finally got her to sign up for a Steem account. I sent her this link. I'd love for her to find a new, fun way of earning money other than working for some advertisement company giving them valuable feedback for $0.25 for 30 min of survey work.
@stan@michaelx -- If you are able to give me a very brief real-time tutorial in reply, I would love that but no expectation. Since @matttrainer had few followers, etc-- and is new.. was his post basically boosted into all the action because you both curated/shared it? Was it because of the title and all the people who saw it in the introduceyourself thread? What was the key factor(s) compared to if I put out a post?
Thanks @stan-- So how does it get up to $700+ is that directly related to number of votes, and replies or deeper algorithm (is there best link to learn this?) of variables? Would two posts both with 50 upvotes and 50 replies garner same amount of $ (for example) or does it go up exponentially because of curation and other variables. I am not afraid to learn by the way, and I will do my research, but I also don't mind asking if you feel there's a relatively 'easy' answer or you have a favorite link close at hand which best explains this. I would prefer to learn from the best rather than running in circles. Again, I appreciate this could be long reply, and I will continue to explore, no expectations.
The reward on a post depends on a number of factors but the most important ones are:
1-It is not the amount of accounts that are voting.
2-It's the voting power (AKA Steem Power) behind the votes.
3-The median market price of the Steem Token.
In esence having more Steem Power equates to having more votes at your disposal.
Thank you @onthewayout - that's helpful and explains (right) why people like Stan and Michael and others with lots of Steem voting have pushed the $ for Matt's post right up.
we can do it without any "help" please don't rush I know you love your projects. Give them time and care, would you have liked to have steemit be the vr space game, that made grannies millionares, or would you rather have a community based on development, learning, growth and communication.
Just look at the site and you will see why you won't need VR https://robertsspaceindustries.com/ they have already built a galaxy. I just hope the game doesn't flop. So please we don't need helmet people ready to throw money and be running like chickens with no heads. I'd rather have smart people that can think for themselves and do great things like you and you're son. Thank you both for your efforts and the lengths you would go to to secure dan's quote " " .
I liked your lecture but it oozed marketing and I never like that it was fun and great, but I always keep some caution when people are conquering the world. I hope this doesn't disappoint you much, I just think that neither steemit nor bitshares is ready for mindless zombies. It's going to be a year or two, before EOS and Steemit and even bitshares are kicking into full gear that's just how businesses operate. We need reliable people, apps, ideas, and real world reach. We shouldn't be aiming at VR, I like the idea, but apparently neither matt nor mitchel are the right people. There are many great people lurking in the woodwork here with better ideas, earning cents or full zeroes. Going to collage, paying bills, trustworthy, reliable people that can do much more if they are given the tools and opportunity. Support them, fuck the millions. They are followers anyway, we can't all vote for a thousand copies of a person all dressing alike and thinking alike, the Mailey and the Gaga's I'm not missing that trending part one bit.
I'm going to make this into a post and maybe earn more than 2steems, I'm not sure if you will read it, or anyone, Still I'd like to hear your thoughts, because here I've seen only arguing and no real value.
and you will find out how we all share information in a transparent manner here and have built solid relationships of trust. @samupaha is a trusted Steemian, whereas you are a newcomer.
also he claims he is successful and all that but I dont see any steem power in his account... meaning he doesn't even support steemit so why should we trust him? before he start with this big thing he needs to provide real information real proof real reasons... also banning people who are not believing you just gives people more reason not to trust you....
I'm still somewhat on the fence about this whole thing. I know it's garnering an awful lot of attention. I'm curious about the "game" aspect, but I've been around the online money and MLM block a couple times, and it just kinda raises flags without a single google search.
I will say that threatening libel on a random online blogger doesn't show you in a light we steemians like to shine.
It's nice to be so super excited about big opportunities, but one should always read the fine print, especially the part where they let you know they can say whatever they want about success stories without ever having any obligation to show you a shred of evidence that they are true:
"ANY EXAMPLES WE HAVE PROVIDED SHOULD NOT BE INTERPRETED AS ANY GUARANTEE OF EARNINGS. WE DO NOT ASSERT THAT OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES REPRESENT A “GET RICH SCHEME.” UPON REQUEST, WE MAY ASSIST YOU IN THE VERIFICATION OF CLAIMS OF ACTUAL EARNINGS AND/OR EXAMPLES OF ACTUAL RESULTS ACHIEVED, THOUGH WE ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO DO SO."
The video of the guys talking about the future of VR could be from a documentary on the future of VR for all the referencing of the company they do (none). So besides there being literally zero indication that these two dudes have any capacity to put into practice what they're spitballing, there's also really no indication of how they are affiliated with a company that apparently calls its home somewhere between the GNC and the CVS.
I'm 99% sure the "Cinema Technologist" is this guy who apparently hasn't had steady film work in years. And it's not because he's doing big things - at least none you can find on Google.
"Futurist/VR Filmmaker," Maxim Jago turns out to be a motivational speaker/filmmaker with a "Metaphysics PhD on the nature of being" so clearly an expert on getting a 10 million dollar game project up and running.
Neither of these two has anything about a VR venture on their websites, which to be fair are grossly outdated. Especially for guys who are about to bring about the next Great Leap Forward in gaming technology.
I'm not saying scam... but you have to understand the guy makes money selling ideas.
My guess on what the guy is going to do:
Start an ICO where people will invest in.
Maybe really build something... probably not. I think his game will be something sketchy where you all have to buy is token and wait for a centrain date for something that's not going to happen.
Cash out when the token is worth a lot
You can't find anything about the guy... only marketing. 10 Million prize pool? That money has to come from YOU first!
So why don't you just stick to telling us about the game? Why all this icky boiler plate marketing with get rich quick language? Who cares about how much money you made someone else? Or better yet how many lawsuits you've lost.
From someone that sat through the webinar:
5 minutes in: hasn't started yet.
8 minutes in: Finally hearing audio, and few mentions of a game.
28 minutes in: Just listened to 20 straight minutes of him talking about his past SEO success, saw him in a picture in front of some studios in Hollywood, and heard him throw around names, titles, etc. Hardly any mention of this "game", but has instead talked about people earning ridiculous amounts of money through different business methods related SEO and internet traffic. He keeps talking about people buying nice houses, he's starting to remind me of that Tai Lopez guy that I keep seeing in ads. Also, he just claimed he knows all of this secret stuff about Google search results, that no one else knows besides Google.
32 minutes in: Said 5 minutes ago we'd be talking about this game, but has hardly mentioned it yet. Just finished talking about how "small minded people" filed lawsuits, and tied up millions in his bank accounts. Also just made an appeal to emotion, by talking about his run-in with cancer, and his house flooding. I don't care if it's real or not, I just fail to see how it's relevant. Still talking about himself and his success.
36 minutes in: Just made an appeal to Christians, talking about how he would run Bible studies 5 days a week, and how he's read the Bible 20? times. Also, another reason to be skeptical, paid a hypnotherapist 6 figures. All of this "spirit quest" was because he didn't want to help anyone, and he figured something was wrong with him. But don't worry guys, he loves himself now, and we're the lucky people that he's going to start helping again (sarc.). Still no mention of a game, still talking about himself.
40 minutes in: Keeps talking about how terrible it is that we worship money, but also keeps talking about obscene amounts of money you make with his special methods. Also, keeps talking about how evil corporations are, because they make money off of us. I'm sure he won't be making any money off of those that take him up on his offer... Right? Not to mention, it sounds like the whole premise, is that the people that follow his method, will be making money off of the very same people these evil corporations were making money off of. Maybe I'm wrong, but some clarity would be appreciated.
45 minutes in: Finally talking about the game... And now he's talking about "Back to the Future"? He was so close to actually cutting to the chase!
48 minutes in: Actually said this is not some "make money quick" BS. LOL
52 minutes in: He's talking about the game! Oh my gosh! Wait, I'm actually interested... He says this game is being played not only with bitshares, and Steemit, but also 1 million ounces of gold? He says it's backed by 1 million ounces of gold, which is worth roughly $1.28 billion. Still, there's no way to verify this claim, that I know of (read below). He says it's held at Brinks, which I have heard of, but he gives no details on how we can verify. Hopefully more information is forthcoming. Also, introduced Karmakoin, which is now on bitshares, and is apparently the token for the game.
58 minutes in: Quick bit about Steemit, and how easy it is to make money on it, for the average person.
60 minutes in: Still unclear how this game works. Similar to Steemit, in that you make money for doing things, but also watching. Not a ton of details.
61 minutes in: Game is called "the mogul search engine game". Catchy. "Players" get paid for doing things (writing, videos, blogging, creating content, etc.) Still, similar to how Steemit works. Creators get paid first.
63 minutes in: Watchers also get paid, maybe more than players. Game launches in one month. I'll be honest, the game itself doesn't sound that bad. Interesting, to say the least.
65 minutes in: He's giving us "inside secrets", before the game is released to the public. The game is backed by the blockchain, as well as this gold. Mentions there will be more videos forthcoming.
68 minutes in: Now advertising for a year long mentoring program, with him and others, "Game Master Economy". Costs $50K (20 spots). Yeah right. Oh, but wait, there's "Game Master Apprentice", for 90 days, for $10K (20 spots). He's losing my interest, that he had briefly grabbed. But wait, there's even more! I can be one of the 300 founding moguls! I can get to be one of the first players, get early access, and help determine rules. Only $2.5K. That's $2 million dollars in earnings for Matt, right off the bat.
80 minutes: Karmakoin is backed 1:1 ratio, with an ounce of gold. Gold is delivered as the koin is mined. (Again, $1.28 billion of gold). Link here to Karmakoin on Bitshares: https://bitshares.org/wallet/#/market/BTS_KARMAKOIN
85 minutes in: Koin is not pegged to gold, but the floor is the price of the gold. I'm skeptical of this new coin offering... If it's backed by gold, can we actually take delivery of the gold? (I ask, because I don't know). If not, that makes me even more skeptical.
86 minutes in: Says he can prove this gold exists. My background in precious metals tells me to never trust someone that says they have gold in a vault somewhere. But who knows, besides him. He is now discouraging criticism. Uh oh. Is he talking about me? How does he know I'm typing this right now?!
88 minutes in: Says criticism will lead to people not being allowed to play in his games. Called out @samupaha, and said he will never be allowed to play the game. I think @samupaha is right... Maybe not. Regardless, I don't want to be part of a game that automatically kicks me because of some criticism. He's yelling now, that this is not a scam. Again, maybe it is, maybe not. Time will tell. But automatically blocking me for criticism, that's not the way to do it. Also, just threatened people that say its a scam with, with lawsuits. I'm not saying it's a scam... I'm just saying. Dude sounds like a jerk. You can decide for yourself if you want to play, maybe it's a scam, maybe it's not. But the fact that he was just yelling at this guy, makes me not want to be a part of it.
100 minutes in: Just more details about the special slots for the 340 first adopters. I'm done watching, if I'm not playing the game anyways.
-Note to Matt Trainer, his team, and everyone else: Ban me, so what. I'm not saying it's a scam, but I have been left with more question marks than when this webinar began. Maybe money can be made, maybe not.
My recommendation at this point: Be skeptical, question who is benefiting, but by all means, try the game out when it's released. I'll stick to my current platforms.
I think your note at 68 minutes is the whole thing right there. He only needs to sell one slot at the cheapest "mentoring" thing to make $2.5k. Do you mind if I link this comment in a comment on another post?
Good work taking one for the team by sitting through that webinar!
Thanks, it's actually a post made by another steemit user, I'll resteem that post though as it also has some good information about this "game" and the person behind it.
hahahah I guess his moves work on people, he's pretty well off playing other people's money, well their fault is with them. @samupaha 's post has a comment on his past scam I think it goes the same way :D but with a lot more seminars and maybe more yelling.
I agree, also I'm not sure if its the same guy but I found this scam report as the second result on Google for the term "Matt Trainer". I'll still probably watch the live stream to see what its about but, needless to say I'm skepitcal.
Curious how nothing ever changes. Or they change, while staying the same.
Because I'm a really olde pharte, I used to actually write for the "Income Opportunity" press back when we actually used printed ink on paper. Nothing "new" here, except the venue and the delivery system.
There are ABSOLUTELY four people who will make over a million dollars in their first year. There are ABSOLUTELY 11 retired people who will make $6000 a month working only 7 hours a week. There are ABSOLUTELY 5 people who will be able to buy a new car with their first month's earnings. These are all absolutely TRUE and VERIFYABLE promises and statements!
What's conveniently "overlooked" and "forgotten" is that there will be 100,000 people who "invest" from $499 and up... and come away with NOTHING.
That's how "hype-based" programs with "big star power" launches WORK! 30+ years of dissecting hundreds of such "programs" have taught a few things. Most specifically that "tall promises" are generally provable... there are a few dozen "superstars," a few hundred "supporting actors" and thousands and thousands of "losers" or "marks."
Whatever ANY of you guys choose to do, educate yourselves... and never give away your hard earned ching in the heat of the moment. Oh... I used to write sales literature and "pitch scripts," too... it's all designed to get you super fired up so you stop thinking when you "write the check."
I will either be upvoting or downvoting this post, depending on what happens tonight. Red flags are going up left and right for me. The amount of new users acting as apparent hype men that have magically appeared as supporters on this post is a little too suspicious to me. And the promise of a $10 million prize...I'm finding very hard to believe.
I would absolutely love to be wrong about this, so please show us some actual substance. I'll certainly be following this.
but without already having those skills, I will say now why i KNOW your product is a scam;
$49,999 for an online product is RIDICULOUS! what value does it has? how does it differ from other personal development program?
You said that your program is "endorsed" by the Steemit devs. We'd know what our Devs says. And they DO NOT ENDORSE your program. you outright lied to your webinar participants.
You incessantly avoid crucial questions. Where is your supposed "Gold Contract"? what is the protocol on your KARMA KOIN, how to you avoid double spending.. these questions were asked one way or another. All of them unanswered by you.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY $99 Dollars for "access to Steemit". That is outright scam. There is another term IRL (in real life) called Ticket Scalping. I cant find a better term to described what you did.
First day on Steem, and you called someone an "Asshole". NOT COOL!!
What is this supposed "Game". Did you have a developer at all? $49,999 on a beta product sounds too steep dont you think?
I'm sorry @matttrainer, I wont judge you personally because i dont know you. But your product, Mogul, is a scam.
it's good to have people like you in here. And many others who are healthy in the skeptical area. Most of that mainstream bullshit that manipulates people doesn't work in here. We are a tough bunch. Thankfully.......
I watched his webinar. At one point he talked about an "Asshole tax". Anybody who says anything negative about the game, will never be allowed to play. He is mostly selling stuff in his webinar though. Prices range between a few hundred dollars to over 40k dollars
This oozes of a scam and an unsophisticated conman. Alarm bells are ringing right now. The amount of upvotes on this post is shocking. There is nothing here that warrants this kind of support.
Now I take pride in being an optimistic person, but I would recommend you all to do your research before investing into this. There are numerous scams online with crypto currencies and I would hate to see anyone loose money from a scammer. This sounds too good to be true to me, and I do not see how they profit as well. Remember: If this is real, they would profit more than you anyway in the long run. That's just how's it's works. It's how all MLM services work. Be cautious guys! I wish you all the best!
Please upvote this so we can get it to the to point and educate other users who may not know what to lookout for as far as scam software go in crypto!
As a cryptocurrency & game enthusiast I was excited to hear about this idea originally. But upon seeing this post and listening about this idea was disappointing to see someone asking for money for how to play some game that doesn't appear to exist or anything about the prize pool that is concrete.
I downvoted after the author removed the post. I don't see why this post should received any reward now that the project or supposed project has been abandoned.
I am flagging this post and some of the author's comment due to 'not agreeing with the rewards' as per
and I suggest others to do so as there is no need to reward this event if it is canceled.
Love your post on Facebook "$300 in 58 minutes on a Sunday morning?".
Haha, welcome to steemit!
Could be interesting to see your 71 year old newbie grandma posting here. I bet she would be doing great, too. Good luck for your journey! But probably you don't event need that...:-)
So exciting to see your vision and game coming to fruition Matt - thanks for your leadership and showing me the future - I am excited to play and win even bigger ;)
If this means the gaming community will get involved with Steemit, that would be huge, Gamers are the perfect demographic for this type of thing. looking forward to the webinar.
This is big guys. Matt is the guy who just sponsored the event that Michael and I spoke at in Hollywood (as described at SovereignHero.com). Now he's bringing all that marketing power to Steemit and BitShares and the HERO revolution in the form of a game with a big prize. This will undoubtedly bring a big influx of new users and big boost in value - i.e. how much we all earn from posting and curating everything.
How 'bout some help for Matt in learning how to use the Steemit and BitShares blockchains for a whole new world of use cases?
Welcome Matt!
Stan
this asshole is the person who scammed people for millions of fucking dollars too If you do a quick Google search with Matt's name you'll find that about half the results are scam reports and warnings. Here are just a few:
http://behindmlm.com/companies/dubli-network/wukars-matt-trainer-slams-dubli-they-lied-to-us/
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/matt-trainer/west-hollywood-california/matt-trainer-mml-innovations-inc-matt-trainer-100-million-dollar-exit-complete-scam-w-1161496
https://www.pissedconsumer.com/company/dubli/team-wukar-in-dubli-matt-trainer-are-complete-frauds-20150115583010.html
credit to @contentjunkie
All I know is he delivered one helluva great value in Hollywood. I'm loving that he is applying that technology to drive attention to our blockchains. Gameification is the future of marketing and his whole company (which I have met and worked with) will become a powerhouse in the industry. Nice to have all that driving new people our way.
selling SEO products for $49,999 is shameful. There's nothing of value in doing that:
but without already having those skills, I will say now why i KNOW your product is a scam;
$49,999 for an online product is RIDICULOUS! what value does it has? how does it differ from other personal development program?
You said that your program is "endorsed" by the Steemit devs. We'd know what our Devs says. And they DO NOT ENDORSE your program. you outright lied to your webinar participants.
You incessantly avoid crucial questions. Where is your supposed "Gold Contract"? what is the protocol on your KARMA KOIN, how to you avoid double spending.. these questions were asked one way or another. All of them unanswered by you.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY $99 Dollars for "access to Steemit". That is outright scam. There is another term IRL (in real life) called Ticket Scalping. I cant find a better term to described what you did.
First day on Steem, and you called someone an "Asshole". NOT COOL!!
What is this supposed "Game". Did you have a developer at all? $49,999 on a beta product sounds too steep dont you think?
I'm sorry @matttrainer, I wont judge you personally because i dont know you. But your product, Mogul, is a scam.
Full post here: https://steemit.com/steemit/@awesomianist/open-letter-to-matttrainer-sorry-to-say-but-this-but-mogul-is-a-scam
You guys sound a lot like the naysayers calling Bitcoin a scam back when there was not yet any infrastructure or on ramps. If you were not a miner, it was much easier and far less intellectually challenging to just call it a scam then to try and figure out the "coloring outside of the lines" ways of buying it while it was still selling in the single digits. Thank God I didn't listen to your knee jerk reactions and started buying bitcoin for $5 in 2011
Dear @rubenalexander
You downvoted this comment because..................?
Be advised that you will either need a good reason or if you have no good reason, be hereby advised that I also know how to downvote.
Have an absolutely splendiferous rest of what's left of your day and your 15 minutes of fame :-)
what the hell you scare me now :D If I could I will double my up vote to you ahahaha
Bitcoin was launched by a genius cryptoanarchist. Mogul is (or was going to be) launched by a serial scammer. There is quite big difference, don't you think?
You have absolutely no idea by whom Bitcoin was launched. To claim you do is to display your lack of credentials to add anything meaningful to the discussion here. Good God, man, do you expect us to believe every claim on tv, radio, and online? Do you not know that there are highly paid disinformation specialists? And amateurs like you with names to make for themselves or bloated egos to feed.
I wish I knew you back in 2011 so I could buy tons of BTC but here we are... the machine to go back in time doesn't exist yet
How can you even compare the two? Bitcoin was open-source since 2009. There was no person going around asking other users for $10-$50,000 without any proof or details to be a part of the network.
That's because you're also a scammy fuck just like those you hang out with.
Matt isn't ready for Steemit.
Totally Stan, #hero
Thank you for letting us know
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But you'll miss out on the $20 million prize pool. Wait.... how much is now?
Oh noes!!
Hahaha... good one.
Up to $25 million now.
wow I'm so sad I've missed it, giving money to some vegas praising douche. just sign here and here and it's gone, the invisible empire
Stan,
please read this post to educate yourself. This may not be a good thing, but first you must learn more information: https://steemit.com/scam/@samupaha/warning-potential-scam-mogul-build-your-invisible-empire
I have first-hand experience with Matt's team the past month. Awesome great content in Hollywood. I watched the team solve problems from the inside. I want to see those technologies applied to bring the world to our blockchains.
And before that, have you educated yourself about his past work and his past projects?
I merely testify to what I personally know and have observed. I don't deal in hearsay.
In other words you've chosen to remain ignorant.
You know who you remind me of right now? Your son. He refused to see that the Dollar was actively scamming people out of money. It was hard to watch......because he wanted to believe that he was a good man. He's not.
I once had a wise and faithful counselor who advised me to play the game for where things will be when the dust settles. I'm content to do that now. No point in arguing about it in the mean time.
Well have you done your research?
Stan got paid. And got paid well.
that's a fancy way to say "i'm being disingenuous"
Super genius types are not always the best judges of character. Naive and good, trustworthy people such as yourself sometimes may have a hard time seeing reality, especially when involving your fantasy ideas of your own success. I would appreciate if you at least spent time educating yourself about Matt's past. Other scam artists have found a nice cozy home on here, and are still ripping off people. It's best to be wise about forming partnerships, as you are putting all of us at risk if you choose not to look with a critical eye.
To be fair ive seen you promote synereo as though it was an improvement upon steem...without having any idea if it could even scale.
You compare that to endorsing an obvious scam scheme on our own platform? Oh fuzzy.
I have good connections with good people in Los Angeles, who work with big names. Maybe you should find trustworthy people yourself, and form connections. Partnering with people who you barely know seems like a bad idea.
Time will tell
"It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently." -- Warren Buffett
In December 1912, J. P. Morgan testified before Congress in the so-called Money Trust hearings. Asked to explain how he decided whether to make a loan or investment, he replied, “The first thing is character.” His questioner skeptically suggested that factors like collateral might be more important, but Morgan replied, “A man I do not trust could not get money from me on all the bonds in Christendom.”
This game is a scam, i think, because it sounds really fishy to me. i will think differently if you would anwser me some questions.
Where does the money come from?
Why should we trust a person with a past like this?
And some more.
@stan @abit @thejohalfiles @fuzzvest how are you guys taking this seriously. There is nothing of any real value here. Have you not heard the empty promises of a conman before? You might want it to be true but it just clearly isn't. As my dad used to say, what a crock of horseshit!
Maybe because we just pulled off one awesome event with his team in Hollywood?
Stan, you have the glaze of last night's diamonds obscuring your vision.
Please clean your lenses.
Who cares about an event in Hollywood? Why are you afraid to address the very real criticisms being lodged here. You are blindly supporting an obvious scam based on the fact that you partied with the guy?
You have no integrity.
Wow. Why u think the guy has no integrity? It seems u guys are being a bit hard on someone who just did one of the best promotional works for our tech since dan made steem.
I waited to see what would happen before passing judgement, but upon reading the initial post I was suspicious.
Then the guy bailed before 24 hours were up after making such a grand post, made threats of what appeared to be legal action simply because some people were pasting links to claims on the internet and asking questions in the comments.
It was a huge overreaction for anyone that was acting in good faith in my view. And it was a classic scammer reaction when they've been caught in their game.
I would never put money into this persons ventures. Spend a little, wow the unsuspecting ... all for the big con later.
Usually it's really bad promotion to be connected with a scam.
hmmm, maybe he had enough from his last scam to pull off the next one even bigger!
ok, why is he banning people? That sounds very suspicious.
That's only because a lot of noobs have decided to trust Matt. To intensify their trust, it is important to reject the haters. And reject them openly. That post does exactly that. A classic Internet Marketing style.
I hope and wish Matt is transparent.
Sadly it took whale votes and bought whale votes to get this visibility, so it isn't just noobs it is also others who wish to profit from this.
Noobs by mind. Not by numbers. ;-)
It's hilarious! He's like a kid throwing a tantrum. You're out of the club! @mattrainer please ban me too!
I cannot believe Stan is backing this type of person. But then again, geeks are not really good at identifiying conmen........just look at The Dollar and Dan.
Hmmm, maybe. I would like to know @dan thinks about this one.
@stellabelle Why do people keep accusing @dan of being a scammer? He's been working in the crypto space for years, he's doing public presentations all the time, would a scammer do that after being caught publicly? I don't get it, got a link with accusations or something? It keeps coming up....
I warned him there would be trolls. He's the kind of guy who attacks when attacked. Doesn't prove anything. I'm interested in seeing if it works as a troll containment strategy. Probably not, but as a game master he certainly has the right to keep that kind of stuff from infecting his game.
labeling intelligent people asking intelligent questions as trolls is not accurate.
You do realize that conman who was previously popular in here accounted for scaring off a huge number of users on Steemit, right?
How is he a game master? He mentions nothing of the game. He appears to be trying to sell "how to's" of a game before it exists which doesn't make sense.
Very responsible behavior and instant trust for me to place my money on...
You contain trolls by ignoring them. 14 year olds streaming on twitch know how to deal with trolls better than @matttrainer. If he can't handle a few criticising comments on a decentralized platform, good luck on all others.
So... PASS ME THE PORK! lol
Again, I am very disappointed in you.
Stan your vote of confidence really doesn't go far any more. For anyone that doesn't know Stan has endorsed scammers before:
https://coinjournal.net/michael-taggart-involved-banx-scam/
Just watch and learn. No time or need to worry about such lame attempts to smear people any more.
I get it. You are profiting from this scam. This will just be another black mark on your record.
I don't know this Stan dude. And now I don't wish to know about him now.
Stan is Dan Larimer's father.
So, let's see what happened. The guy quit already.
What can we learn about this? Maybe that it's usually a really bad idea to work with serial scammers?
I don't think he quit.
I think he's taking his innovative ideas elsewhere.
Steemit had its chance.
I warned him this would happen.
But he just loved the idea of Steemit too much.
Had to learn the hard way.
But what about all that work integrating it into the STEEM blockchain? How can someone just throw that amount of development away completely, and only 4 weeks from launch?
Exactly. This is how we know it's complete and utter bullshit. That's because the only infrastructure in place is the ICO that he launched. Pretty smart move for a scammer, scam unregulated currency and come away scot free.
Has Matt served time in federal prison?
please. Innovators don't quit because their ideas are in demand. Wake up, sir.
Stan, i wrote this for you. I hope you read it: https://steemit.com/growth-ideas/@stellabelle/dear-stan-if-you-want-to-market-steem-and-bitshares-follow-what-elon-musk-does-with-tesla-here-s-an-idea-for-you
Good riddance.
probably that 71 year old grandma is with him now :|
seriously, people with money can be dicks, well at least now we know his evil plans and his mogul empire :)
hi @stan,just a new guy on steemit,any piece of advice cos you guys are the boss.thanks..
You and your scammy ass friends need to GTFO. I'll be back to make sure this gets no payout.
No wonder someone buying my 0.00073 btc/steem order in DEX while current price is only 0.00054. Panic buying I guess. :)
Thank you @stan this is really cool news. - I saw the video of you speaking at that event, and it was excellent. I appreciate everything you do.
It's not cool news to get a serial scammer to Steem.
Why are you supporting this obvious scam? How much are you being paid?
No need to accuse him of getting paid, many follow other people's words and recommendations.
https://steemit.com/the50/@kurtbeil/could-matt-trainer-be-the-p-t-barnum-of-the-virtual-reality-and-blockchain-revolution
I'm in. Any help you need @matttrainer need with bitahares and steemit. I'll try my best.
I'm eager to see this...It would change the future for steemit as a whole... :D
I'm excited to see what happens. :)
Thanks guys I am listening live right now ... stopping fund freezing are what blockchains do best welcome to @steemit @matttrainer @steemboard
Let's get this game started!
There is no game.
My mom spends hours a day online doing surveys. I finally got her to sign up for a Steem account. I sent her this link. I'd love for her to find a new, fun way of earning money other than working for some advertisement company giving them valuable feedback for $0.25 for 30 min of survey work.
Online slave work.
looks like he thought we played too rough, since he edited out the original text and left this n its place 'Bye steemit. You're not ready for this.' 😉
this is very interesting and congrats on your first post this is my first comment this whole thing is very exciting
@stan @michaelx -- If you are able to give me a very brief real-time tutorial in reply, I would love that but no expectation. Since @matttrainer had few followers, etc-- and is new.. was his post basically boosted into all the action because you both curated/shared it? Was it because of the title and all the people who saw it in the introduceyourself thread? What was the key factor(s) compared to if I put out a post?
I don't think it's the post. I think it's the value to Steemit and BitShares.
Regardless of... whatever this actually is, it has the appearance of a scam. I think this sort of thing is toxic to any platform it infects.
Thanks @stan-- So how does it get up to $700+ is that directly related to number of votes, and replies or deeper algorithm (is there best link to learn this?) of variables? Would two posts both with 50 upvotes and 50 replies garner same amount of $ (for example) or does it go up exponentially because of curation and other variables. I am not afraid to learn by the way, and I will do my research, but I also don't mind asking if you feel there's a relatively 'easy' answer or you have a favorite link close at hand which best explains this. I would prefer to learn from the best rather than running in circles. Again, I appreciate this could be long reply, and I will continue to explore, no expectations.
The reward on a post depends on a number of factors but the most important ones are:
1-It is not the amount of accounts that are voting.
2-It's the voting power (AKA Steem Power) behind the votes.
3-The median market price of the Steem Token.
In esence having more Steem Power equates to having more votes at your disposal.
Thank you @onthewayout - that's helpful and explains (right) why people like Stan and Michael and others with lots of Steem voting have pushed the $ for Matt's post right up.
Add www. to the SovereignHero.com webpage.
we can do it without any "help" please don't rush I know you love your projects. Give them time and care, would you have liked to have steemit be the vr space game, that made grannies millionares, or would you rather have a community based on development, learning, growth and communication.
I'm going to give you a perfect example of why mat doesn't bring any trust when I see his messages here, first off hype, second off lack of any past or present success(money doesn't measure, trust does, if he really had 10mils he either got it from other people or in the impossible way earned other people more to have such an amount) , now to give you another example of a person who probably isn't so downright greedy(because that's what taste is left in my mouth after his , you are not going to play shinanigans). Have you heard of Star Citizen, the "best" upcoming game, upcoming for about 5 years or so, development, development ........ . millions in kickstarter, contests, studios, people, videos, backed and developed by serious people the main dev being in the field for over 30 years, with past "flawless" games(Wing Commander) and what have they been doing, well busting their brains making everything work I hope, hahah ridiculous "This one’s all about Item 2.0, which reworks ships so they logically work as a separate list of components.If you’re a citizen of the stars, you might like our list of the best space games. In real terms, these changes mean that lights will turn off if you power down a room’s modules, or perhaps the atmosphere will be sucked out of a room as you enter."
Just look at the site and you will see why you won't need VR https://robertsspaceindustries.com/ they have already built a galaxy. I just hope the game doesn't flop. So please we don't need helmet people ready to throw money and be running like chickens with no heads. I'd rather have smart people that can think for themselves and do great things like you and you're son. Thank you both for your efforts and the lengths you would go to to secure dan's quote " " .
I liked your lecture but it oozed marketing and I never like that it was fun and great, but I always keep some caution when people are conquering the world. I hope this doesn't disappoint you much, I just think that neither steemit nor bitshares is ready for mindless zombies. It's going to be a year or two, before EOS and Steemit and even bitshares are kicking into full gear that's just how businesses operate. We need reliable people, apps, ideas, and real world reach. We shouldn't be aiming at VR, I like the idea, but apparently neither matt nor mitchel are the right people. There are many great people lurking in the woodwork here with better ideas, earning cents or full zeroes. Going to collage, paying bills, trustworthy, reliable people that can do much more if they are given the tools and opportunity. Support them, fuck the millions. They are followers anyway, we can't all vote for a thousand copies of a person all dressing alike and thinking alike, the Mailey and the Gaga's I'm not missing that trending part one bit.
I'm going to make this into a post and maybe earn more than 2steems, I'm not sure if you will read it, or anyone, Still I'd like to hear your thoughts, because here I've seen only arguing and no real value.
Matt is a real deal! and this launch is not usual.
Don't miss the Live Launch tonight, June 4, 2017 at 6pm PST.
Thanks to Matt for this epic launch ever,
Jazz
Yes Matt Trainer is the real deal. A real piece of shit scam artist.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/matt-trainer/west-hollywood-california/matt-trainer-mml-innovations-inc-matt-trainer-100-million-dollar-exit-complete-scam-w-1161496
Yessss! :D
You know this is a scam right?
Your reputation is on the line here
How is this a scam? Im very interested to know because i hear alot of people talking crap with nothing to back it up.
well well its your reputation. i love you anyway no matter what
Yessss! :D
Hello @matttrainer
It is not every time that someone makes a splash this Huge on steemit. It shows that you are Man of purpose.
Looking forward to what you have in store for us. I am going to be sharing this on Twitter.
Followed You.
@ogochukwu
this game will change the future of steemit, for sure....
This is great @matttrainer. Thanks!
@matttrainer
I'm totally new at steemit and now totally blown away by what you've just created!
ABsolutely, light it up and let's have some fun this is the future in business and any growth!
#readyplayerfun
#thematttrainermemes might need to make their first Steemit appearance!
@matttrainer thank you for helping to make Steemit more incredible than it already is.
What the hell is wrong with you people? If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is not. Especially when it's promised by a serial scammer.
I just published this: WARNING, potential scam: "Mogul - Build Your Invisible Empire"
Samupaha, you should read my post on the webinar. He calls you out in it 😄 @matttrainer classless.
Thanks, that was really funny! :)
yes and I thank you for doing that.
and you will find out how we all share information in a transparent manner here and have built solid relationships of trust. @samupaha is a trusted Steemian, whereas you are a newcomer.
also he claims he is successful and all that but I dont see any steem power in his account... meaning he doesn't even support steemit so why should we trust him? before he start with this big thing he needs to provide real information real proof real reasons... also banning people who are not believing you just gives people more reason not to trust you....
LOL, believe me, I don't want to be anywhere near of your games.
I'm still somewhat on the fence about this whole thing. I know it's garnering an awful lot of attention. I'm curious about the "game" aspect, but I've been around the online money and MLM block a couple times, and it just kinda raises flags without a single google search.
I will say that threatening libel on a random online blogger doesn't show you in a light we steemians like to shine.
So who was the one to fuck off?
It's nice to be so super excited about big opportunities, but one should always read the fine print, especially the part where they let you know they can say whatever they want about success stories without ever having any obligation to show you a shred of evidence that they are true:
"ANY EXAMPLES WE HAVE PROVIDED SHOULD NOT BE INTERPRETED AS ANY GUARANTEE OF EARNINGS. WE DO NOT ASSERT THAT OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES REPRESENT A “GET RICH SCHEME.” UPON REQUEST, WE MAY ASSIST YOU IN THE VERIFICATION OF CLAIMS OF ACTUAL EARNINGS AND/OR EXAMPLES OF ACTUAL RESULTS ACHIEVED, THOUGH WE ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO DO SO."
The video of the guys talking about the future of VR could be from a documentary on the future of VR for all the referencing of the company they do (none). So besides there being literally zero indication that these two dudes have any capacity to put into practice what they're spitballing, there's also really no indication of how they are affiliated with a company that apparently calls its home somewhere between the GNC and the CVS.
I'm 99% sure the "Cinema Technologist" is this guy who apparently hasn't had steady film work in years. And it's not because he's doing big things - at least none you can find on Google.
"Futurist/VR Filmmaker," Maxim Jago turns out to be a motivational speaker/filmmaker with a "Metaphysics PhD on the nature of being" so clearly an expert on getting a 10 million dollar game project up and running.
Neither of these two has anything about a VR venture on their websites, which to be fair are grossly outdated. Especially for guys who are about to bring about the next Great Leap Forward in gaming technology.
Buyer beware.
🤣
Dude, you can't get banned on Steemit. This is not Facebook.
Lol. Yeah, no danger of me playing (into your hands), but if it tickles your fancy to believe "your team" kept me out of your game, feel free 🤣
Do your research!
I'm not saying scam... but you have to understand the guy makes money selling ideas.
My guess on what the guy is going to do:
You can't find anything about the guy... only marketing. 10 Million prize pool? That money has to come from YOU first!
These kind of guys ruin steemit
more info...
Thanks a lot for all the information ☺️
:-(
So why don't you just stick to telling us about the game? Why all this icky boiler plate marketing with get rich quick language? Who cares about how much money you made someone else? Or better yet how many lawsuits you've lost.
Your get rich quick scheme is transparent.
Love you too
xoxo
From someone that sat through the webinar:
5 minutes in: hasn't started yet.
8 minutes in: Finally hearing audio, and few mentions of a game.
28 minutes in: Just listened to 20 straight minutes of him talking about his past SEO success, saw him in a picture in front of some studios in Hollywood, and heard him throw around names, titles, etc. Hardly any mention of this "game", but has instead talked about people earning ridiculous amounts of money through different business methods related SEO and internet traffic. He keeps talking about people buying nice houses, he's starting to remind me of that Tai Lopez guy that I keep seeing in ads. Also, he just claimed he knows all of this secret stuff about Google search results, that no one else knows besides Google.
32 minutes in: Said 5 minutes ago we'd be talking about this game, but has hardly mentioned it yet. Just finished talking about how "small minded people" filed lawsuits, and tied up millions in his bank accounts. Also just made an appeal to emotion, by talking about his run-in with cancer, and his house flooding. I don't care if it's real or not, I just fail to see how it's relevant. Still talking about himself and his success.
36 minutes in: Just made an appeal to Christians, talking about how he would run Bible studies 5 days a week, and how he's read the Bible 20? times. Also, another reason to be skeptical, paid a hypnotherapist 6 figures. All of this "spirit quest" was because he didn't want to help anyone, and he figured something was wrong with him. But don't worry guys, he loves himself now, and we're the lucky people that he's going to start helping again (sarc.). Still no mention of a game, still talking about himself.
40 minutes in: Keeps talking about how terrible it is that we worship money, but also keeps talking about obscene amounts of money you make with his special methods. Also, keeps talking about how evil corporations are, because they make money off of us. I'm sure he won't be making any money off of those that take him up on his offer... Right? Not to mention, it sounds like the whole premise, is that the people that follow his method, will be making money off of the very same people these evil corporations were making money off of. Maybe I'm wrong, but some clarity would be appreciated.
45 minutes in: Finally talking about the game... And now he's talking about "Back to the Future"? He was so close to actually cutting to the chase!
48 minutes in: Actually said this is not some "make money quick" BS. LOL
52 minutes in: He's talking about the game! Oh my gosh! Wait, I'm actually interested... He says this game is being played not only with bitshares, and Steemit, but also 1 million ounces of gold? He says it's backed by 1 million ounces of gold, which is worth roughly $1.28 billion. Still, there's no way to verify this claim, that I know of (read below). He says it's held at Brinks, which I have heard of, but he gives no details on how we can verify. Hopefully more information is forthcoming. Also, introduced Karmakoin, which is now on bitshares, and is apparently the token for the game.
58 minutes in: Quick bit about Steemit, and how easy it is to make money on it, for the average person.
60 minutes in: Still unclear how this game works. Similar to Steemit, in that you make money for doing things, but also watching. Not a ton of details.
61 minutes in: Game is called "the mogul search engine game". Catchy. "Players" get paid for doing things (writing, videos, blogging, creating content, etc.) Still, similar to how Steemit works. Creators get paid first.
63 minutes in: Watchers also get paid, maybe more than players. Game launches in one month. I'll be honest, the game itself doesn't sound that bad. Interesting, to say the least.
65 minutes in: He's giving us "inside secrets", before the game is released to the public. The game is backed by the blockchain, as well as this gold. Mentions there will be more videos forthcoming.
68 minutes in: Now advertising for a year long mentoring program, with him and others, "Game Master Economy". Costs $50K (20 spots). Yeah right. Oh, but wait, there's "Game Master Apprentice", for 90 days, for $10K (20 spots). He's losing my interest, that he had briefly grabbed. But wait, there's even more! I can be one of the 300 founding moguls! I can get to be one of the first players, get early access, and help determine rules. Only $2.5K. That's $2 million dollars in earnings for Matt, right off the bat.
80 minutes: Karmakoin is backed 1:1 ratio, with an ounce of gold. Gold is delivered as the koin is mined. (Again, $1.28 billion of gold). Link here to Karmakoin on Bitshares: https://bitshares.org/wallet/#/market/BTS_KARMAKOIN
85 minutes in: Koin is not pegged to gold, but the floor is the price of the gold. I'm skeptical of this new coin offering... If it's backed by gold, can we actually take delivery of the gold? (I ask, because I don't know). If not, that makes me even more skeptical.
86 minutes in: Says he can prove this gold exists. My background in precious metals tells me to never trust someone that says they have gold in a vault somewhere. But who knows, besides him. He is now discouraging criticism. Uh oh. Is he talking about me? How does he know I'm typing this right now?!
88 minutes in: Says criticism will lead to people not being allowed to play in his games. Called out @samupaha, and said he will never be allowed to play the game. I think @samupaha is right... Maybe not. Regardless, I don't want to be part of a game that automatically kicks me because of some criticism. He's yelling now, that this is not a scam. Again, maybe it is, maybe not. Time will tell. But automatically blocking me for criticism, that's not the way to do it. Also, just threatened people that say its a scam with, with lawsuits. I'm not saying it's a scam... I'm just saying. Dude sounds like a jerk. You can decide for yourself if you want to play, maybe it's a scam, maybe it's not. But the fact that he was just yelling at this guy, makes me not want to be a part of it.
100 minutes in: Just more details about the special slots for the 340 first adopters. I'm done watching, if I'm not playing the game anyways.
-Note to Matt Trainer, his team, and everyone else: Ban me, so what. I'm not saying it's a scam, but I have been left with more question marks than when this webinar began. Maybe money can be made, maybe not.
My recommendation at this point: Be skeptical, question who is benefiting, but by all means, try the game out when it's released. I'll stick to my current platforms.
Is this Matt guy from Nigeria? I am glad someone besides me watched the "webinar" and reported back. I would have lasted about three minutes.
You should post this somewhere at the beginning of the post.
GAME IS FREE - PARTICIPATION IS UP TO YOU.
I think your note at 68 minutes is the whole thing right there. He only needs to sell one slot at the cheapest "mentoring" thing to make $2.5k. Do you mind if I link this comment in a comment on another post?
Good work taking one for the team by sitting through that webinar!
Go for it, or just resteem my post on my page. Doesn't bother me. And you're welcome, it was brutal.
Thanks, it's actually a post made by another steemit user, I'll resteem that post though as it also has some good information about this "game" and the person behind it.
hahahah I guess his moves work on people, he's pretty well off playing other people's money, well their fault is with them. @samupaha 's post has a comment on his past scam I think it goes the same way :D but with a lot more seminars and maybe more yelling.
While I respect everybody's excitement, your get-rich-quick-style language is really off-putting:
But I guess it's not the skeptics that you're trying to onboard.
I agree, also I'm not sure if its the same guy but I found this scam report as the second result on Google for the term "Matt Trainer". I'll still probably watch the live stream to see what its about but, needless to say I'm skepitcal.
Well, I'll do my best not to FUD you too hard. Good luck!
Oh, something like "fear uncertainty doubt." I just mean I won't libel/slander you, even though I feel a pull not to trust you.
Well, the undertone is quite obvious, regardless.
He hopes that you aren't a scammer.
I think he just doesn't want to say it in fear of not being able to play the game, of life(at mogul )
Is this you Matt?
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/matt-trainer/west-hollywood-california/matt-trainer-mml-innovations-inc-matt-trainer-100-million-dollar-exit-complete-scam-w-1161496
Some other people were wondering.
How Matt can choose the same name with which he scammed before? I thought scammers are smart lol
Never said I believed it. I wanted to know your side is all.
A lot of people called steemit a scam in the past. Skepticism is healthy but it doesn't mean we have to be close-minded.
Life is a scam
Truer words haven't been said lol
Curious how nothing ever changes. Or they change, while staying the same.
Because I'm a really olde pharte, I used to actually write for the "Income Opportunity" press back when we actually used printed ink on paper. Nothing "new" here, except the venue and the delivery system.
There are ABSOLUTELY four people who will make over a million dollars in their first year. There are ABSOLUTELY 11 retired people who will make $6000 a month working only 7 hours a week. There are ABSOLUTELY 5 people who will be able to buy a new car with their first month's earnings. These are all absolutely TRUE and VERIFYABLE promises and statements!
What's conveniently "overlooked" and "forgotten" is that there will be 100,000 people who "invest" from $499 and up... and come away with NOTHING.
That's how "hype-based" programs with "big star power" launches WORK! 30+ years of dissecting hundreds of such "programs" have taught a few things. Most specifically that "tall promises" are generally provable... there are a few dozen "superstars," a few hundred "supporting actors" and thousands and thousands of "losers" or "marks."
Whatever ANY of you guys choose to do, educate yourselves... and never give away your hard earned ching in the heat of the moment. Oh... I used to write sales literature and "pitch scripts," too... it's all designed to get you super fired up so you stop thinking when you "write the check."
I look forward to getting banned from the game!
Big surprise. There's no app. Skip to minute 18. Oops.
state of the game 1
I will either be upvoting or downvoting this post, depending on what happens tonight. Red flags are going up left and right for me. The amount of new users acting as apparent hype men that have magically appeared as supporters on this post is a little too suspicious to me. And the promise of a $10 million prize...I'm finding very hard to believe.
I would absolutely love to be wrong about this, so please show us some actual substance. I'll certainly be following this.
Based on the summaries of the webinar, I decided to downvote this for now. If I see something redeeming, I can always change that vote.
Surprise me.
Same here. I might remain neutral but this whole story and who have voted and downvoted it is leaving me perplex.
Let's do it guys. Excited already.
im gettin pumped over this!!
but without already having those skills, I will say now why i KNOW your product is a scam;
$49,999 for an online product is RIDICULOUS! what value does it has? how does it differ from other personal development program?
You said that your program is "endorsed" by the Steemit devs. We'd know what our Devs says. And they DO NOT ENDORSE your program. you outright lied to your webinar participants.
You incessantly avoid crucial questions. Where is your supposed "Gold Contract"? what is the protocol on your KARMA KOIN, how to you avoid double spending.. these questions were asked one way or another. All of them unanswered by you.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY $99 Dollars for "access to Steemit". That is outright scam. There is another term IRL (in real life) called Ticket Scalping. I cant find a better term to described what you did.
First day on Steem, and you called someone an "Asshole". NOT COOL!!
What is this supposed "Game". Did you have a developer at all? $49,999 on a beta product sounds too steep dont you think?
I'm sorry @matttrainer, I wont judge you personally because i dont know you. But your product, Mogul, is a scam.
You quoted me!!!! OMG that's an honor @Stellabelle!!!!
i owe you $2.57 bc those are your words.
Omg.. Haha, there's no need for that. :D but if you insist I can't reject the kind gesture either.
you did the work, i just spread it around....in my haste i forgot to add your credit...
I don't know about you guys but I am prepping my space suit for the moon
but then again, lets get the flags rolling... just in case
he obviously doesn't know your caustic wit
he will learn. the hard way
it's good to have people like you in here. And many others who are healthy in the skeptical area. Most of that mainstream bullshit that manipulates people doesn't work in here. We are a tough bunch. Thankfully.......
i think part of the problem is that most people in here are gamblers. emotionally unstable and non rational. a bad combination for thinking clearly.
llllllooooooolllll :D here I am, noooooooooot :D
I believe in Freedom, so it's up to everyone to make up their own mind.
I would never put 1 penny into this. The red flags are abundant.
Those of you voting on this.. Really?
owh @freedom will show it' face soon.. if you know what i mean...
I watched his webinar. At one point he talked about an "Asshole tax". Anybody who says anything negative about the game, will never be allowed to play. He is mostly selling stuff in his webinar though. Prices range between a few hundred dollars to over 40k dollars
This oozes of a scam and an unsophisticated conman. Alarm bells are ringing right now. The amount of upvotes on this post is shocking. There is nothing here that warrants this kind of support.
Now I take pride in being an optimistic person, but I would recommend you all to do your research before investing into this. There are numerous scams online with crypto currencies and I would hate to see anyone loose money from a scammer. This sounds too good to be true to me, and I do not see how they profit as well. Remember: If this is real, they would profit more than you anyway in the long run. That's just how's it's works. It's how all MLM services work. Be cautious guys! I wish you all the best!
Please upvote this so we can get it to the to point and educate other users who may not know what to lookout for as far as scam software go in crypto!
Can you tell us more of these "details?" Or do we have to pay to hear them?
https://register.gotowebinar.com/register/6712890505570690819
What's the cost?
As a cryptocurrency & game enthusiast I was excited to hear about this idea originally. But upon seeing this post and listening about this idea was disappointing to see someone asking for money for how to play some game that doesn't appear to exist or anything about the prize pool that is concrete.
RESTEEMED UPVOTED AND TWEETED!
I have a much better idea for a game. It's called "transfer me money cause you are a good guy."
This will be reuploaded I guess?
ded
rage quit :D
I downvoted after the author removed the post. I don't see why this post should received any reward now that the project or supposed project has been abandoned.
I am flagging this post and some of the author's comment due to 'not agreeing with the rewards' as per
and I suggest others to do so as there is no need to reward this event if it is canceled.
This sounds insanely cool.
it does...i followed u can u follow me?
thx
Does to me too. Yes, I'm new up in here, but I see the potential.
Now to learn how not to come in last ;)
Love your post on Facebook "$300 in 58 minutes on a Sunday morning?".
Haha, welcome to steemit!
Could be interesting to see your 71 year old newbie grandma posting here. I bet she would be doing great, too.
Good luck for your journey! But probably you don't event need that...:-)
Followed
Be careful, it's addictive...! :))
See you around
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/matt-trainer/west-hollywood-california/matt-trainer-mml-innovations-inc-matt-trainer-100-million-dollar-exit-complete-scam-w-1161496
https://www.pissedconsumer.com/company/dubli/team-wukar-in-dubli-matt-trainer-are-complete-frauds-20150115583010.html
http://behindmlm.com/companies/dubli-network/dubli-threaten-wukars-matt-trainer-with-a-lawsuit/
http://ethanvanderbuilt.com/2015/01/09/mlm-special-deal-scam/
Wait what? This sounds interesting!
Keep your eyes on this one. @matttrainer and his team are #disruptors of the highest order.
So this is why BTS is jumping today on Polo. JK? Welcome.
What do I read here.... couriosity triggered. I'm not into gaming at all, but interested how that works :D
Amazing! So I stay up tonight. It's at 3am in my time zone :/. But have some work to do anyway until then. See you then.
You will post the recording to registrants? I am unavailable at the webinar time but I'd love to get the video!
Hug Fan>>>>Right here!
Fantastic, Matt! Can't wait to learn more!!
This "one" is ready!
I'm very intrigued by how this game will turn out to be! Looking forward to seeing more details about it :)
This game is not to be missed....and unlike most games, players and watchers are welcome...Don't get left behind the games about to begin!!!
welcome to steem! although i'm not much of a gameplayer all i've got is time so this will be something to look into 😉
i guess i need to do more then! 😉🤣
Sounds interesting but a bit vague! When is more info coming on this? I'm curious
this sounds awesome, all the best!
and welcome to steemit :)
Sounds great. I've registered but won't be able to watch the webinar live as it's at 2.30am for us here! Thanks @matttrainer
Following you
Thanks @matttrainer
This sounds awesome. I can't wait to participate. Was gonna say "play" but with 10 mil on the line. I will be all over this.
Just signed up for the webinar tonight. Can't wait to get started!!!
This will be amazing! Matt Trainer's the real deal. #readyplayerwhat
So exciting to see your vision and game coming to fruition Matt - thanks for your leadership and showing me the future - I am excited to play and win even bigger ;)
Excited to see this roll out!
Fascinating!
I made a post a while back hoping someone could do something similar to "world of warcraft"
https://steemit.com/steem/@centaurmystic/steem-into-a-world-of-steemcraft
So glad someone is putting a game type scenario together. i shall certainly be looking out for it.
Best of luck!
If this means the gaming community will get involved with Steemit, that would be huge, Gamers are the perfect demographic for this type of thing. looking forward to the webinar.
oh wow, now I'm really intrigued.
Sweet! :D Sounds like my kind of deal.
#readyplayerwhat