RE: Hello! I am Kusari (鎖), and I'm Fucking Pissed!! - Attention all Victims of @Grumpycat!!

[shookriya]

I'm starting to understand the whole bot thing I think. I feel like if there were a bit of a gap between the 7 day vote period and the payout it would give curators more time to find spam/plagiarism no?

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[kusari]

it definitely does but 2 strong factors prevent that from actually meaning anything.

1. They aren't doing it. In other words there are just not enough people that are going out there looking for bad content and flaggin it. It is a manpower nightmare, completely impractical and more or less impossible.

2. As bot owners, we are technically the ones that are voting on the crap everyone speaks of because that bot is our account. This makes it our responsibility. However, most owners never take on that responsibility because you would have to manually curate like 1000 posts a day on larger bots.

   • So, the 3.5 thing is actually taking that responsibility off of the bot owners and putting it directly on the community.
   • It's like if you have lots of sp and started voting on a lot of spam. We as a community could either come to you and ask you to stop (or find a way to stop it) or we could waste all of our valuable time trying to flag all the spam you vote on. It's not community responsibility to curate what you vote on to be sure it is adequate, it is yours.

So, as you can see, we can give curators all the time in the world but it won't change anything. Because these curators are basically imaginary. It profits no individual person to flag people so very few people actually do it. Unless they were being paid and the team was large, which is not happening, it simply does not help.

There are other ways that actually do help. I've employed some already. I'm working on a super good one as we speak. Would you know it, it will not be forced on people either, it will be voluntary. Voluntary but effective enough you would be an idiot to not use it. lol

[shookriya]

Yeah, perhaps if there were an incentive to flag plagiarism and spam, as well as a clear definition of spam that would motivate the community to police itself. There would still need to be body like the steam cleaner to verify but would at least a big part of the work would be done.

I think a problem we have is that we all pretend that there is no governing body or rules but there clearly are both, but the apparatus for discussing/changing them is slow to nonexistant. Having designated channels for discussion could potentially help make this platform even more awesome for everyone...

[kusari]

Well said there are both lol.

I"m working on a way to manually curate bots.