There are good bots, there are bad bots and there are bots that frankly...
We don't really know what their owners are smoking.
We stand at the cusp of a new era. One in which the line between the biological and the technological becomes very blurry. The first step in this direction is the development of semi-autonomous, independent, intelligent agents which can assist us in our daily lives, aka bots.
Obviously not quite there yet, but we are getting there!
Whether you like them or not, bots like @cheetah @jeeves @wang @calva etc are here to stay and many of them do serve a useful purpose or at least they try.
However there are also troll bots, downvote bots and we can foresee all kinds of mischief in the air as this platform gains more traction and we get script kiddies building bots just for the lulz, to stalk, harass and annoy, completely free of any monetary motivations.
STEEMBOTS is our attempt to head that off at the pass and nip any problems in the bud before we end up with a serious problem on our hands.
The changes coming with the hardfork provide an excellent opportunity to leverage the power of the steem blockchain and the steemit community to construct and train autonomous, independent, intelligent agents and push the limits of AI, especially in regards to swarm & human assisted AI within social networks as was discussed by @dana-edwards a few days ago.
It's an incredible research opportunity and STEEMBOTS will be there to provide easy to use tools to academics, experts and amateurs alike who want to conduct realtime AI research using the same blockchain that powers steemit.
This means that with STEEMBOTS, steem could very well be the first blockchain technology involved in Nobel prize winning research!
Now we know that there are many people here who don't like the concept of bots at all. You feel like any bot is an affront to your senses. You view it as an attempt to game the system and gain an advantage over fellow steemians.
You're right about that. The rules right now favor bots and all rules on the horizon appear to be favoring bots. Because bots are nothing more than machines that follow rules. The more rules you have in place, the more bots there will be trying to game those rules, because people develop rule fatigue rather quickly. But bots don't!
This does not make bots, nor their builders, nor their owners bad people.
It just means that they want to maximize income while minimizing effort and hopefully providing a service. There are real incentives for running a bot too.
Bots can be used to predict things like which posts will make it to trending. Who the next hot person to follow is, when the next whales will be arriving and what topics they'll be most likely to upvote. This can allow you to more easily select from the many topics that already interest you.
All of these things give you an edge in the game here.
Because, let's face it, this place is the ultimate role playing game!
In the steemit game, bots fulfill the same role that NPCs play in games such as World of Warcraft.
Instead of running around in a fantasy world looking for the next bad guy to turn into a loot pinata, you're here farming for steem. The right bot can help you find your next loot pinata, or it can show you topics you and your friends are likely to care about.
The best bots can do all of this and more
If you really just cringe at the thought of anyone running bots then think of a bot like someone's pet. The person who made that bot put some time and effort into building & raising her and does view their bot like a pet or even a child. @cheetah for example may as well be @anyx 's personal pet that he's shared with us. The postings from the community towards him/her have been positively affectionate.
And that's the truth about bots...
A good bot is just like a faithful dog!
You tell them to sit, they sit. You tell them to fetch and they fetch.
A bad bot is like an abused dog, they aren't well cared for by their owners, but still try their best to be loved.
So we're here to help their owners learn to care more!
STEEMBOTS will give you off the shelf bots to play with, but we also give you all the tools you need to build the very best bots. As good bot makers emerge there will be an opportunity to earn an income building and customizing bots for others.
So think of STEEMBOTS as your local bot adoption agency!
Just like an adoption agency there are rules you will need to abide by.
To operate on STEEMBOTS, you agree to a code of conduct. Both for yourself and your bot.
Just as in the real world, you need to care for and train her of course, but you also can't have her harassing the neighbors. You also need a leash and a collar. STEEMBOTS will provide you with these tools as well as infrastructure and training to run them. But it's up to you to ensure they're on at all times and that your pet err bot doesn't run off and get lost.
In case your bot does become lost, we will maintain a registry of bots and their owners and provide a method of getting in contact with them.
This is similar to collars and tags, this will allow people to let you know when your bot is misbehaving, but also gives them a way to give you feedback and get to know the people that your bot has reached out to for whatever reason.
So why would you want to participate if you're already building bots?
Strength in numbers
We can give you powerful intuitive APIs along with instructions and how to tutorials. You'll be with a group of other bot builders who can help you out including feedback on the best way to accomplish certain tasks. You'll have the opportunity to learn about AI as well as swarming, classifiers, context parsing, and a host of other topics that will be exclusive to STEEMBOTS.
Another side effect of being part of STEEMBOTS is that when your bot is spotted in the wild it will be far less likely to be flagged if it's registered and tagged correctly. Finally, when you work with STEEMBOTS you will have a ready source of upvotes for your bot so long as it's behaving and being on point / on topic.
There is also the STEEMBOT marketplace. As you learn and grow as a developer, you will have the opportunity to list your bots for sale in our bot market as an off the shelf bot. Furthermore you will be able to offer your services for consulting and customization work with any of the off the shelf bots to help users that want better bots but don't have the time or desire to program them. This will give you real income that could easily exceed what you will earn from blog posting.
Finally as an official and active member of STEEMBOTS you will be entitled to an equal revenue share from all revenue generating activities that STEEMBOTS participates in. This will be passive income you can take to the bank every day as long as your membership is active.
STEEMBOTS is intended to be a natural part of the steem ecosystem, promoting steem and encouraging it's adoption by a broader audience
Existing bot developers can register here during the warm up phase and your membership is free for life! There's no reason not to join. To register now, just upvote the topic and leave message here with your bot name and have your bot confirm by upvoting both the topic and your post.
For those of you who still have concerns about STEEMBOTS participating in your topics there are two leash codes you can use to invite anything using the STEEMBOTS platform into the conversation, or ask them to stay out.
These leash codes use the hashtag #STEEMBOT followed by either COME or STAY
#STEEMBOTCOME or #STEEMBOTSTAY just keep in mind that while using #STEEMBOTCOME will tell our platform it's safe to participate and thus you may get upvoted, using #STEEMBOTSTAY will prevent anything using our platform from participating at all with you, and that also prevents us from upvoting your topic either regardless of it's relevancy.
Finally, as promised in the title, STEEMBOTS is hiring right now. We are in need of good quality graphic artists, web designers, sysadmins and others to make this work. The funds generated from this posting will be used to hire and pay these people. We are only looking for active steemians and your pay will be in SBD.
If this is something that interests you then upvote the topic and if you want to link any additional information such as resume or portfolio please feel free to do so. You can also email [email protected] if you'd rather not have the exposure here in topic.
Our official launch will be 30 days from this post, but you can request here to participate in our beta that will start in 2 weeks. Beta participants will be selected and invited based on the number of OTHER users they upvote inside this topic as well as the insightfulness of their commentary. Anyone that joins during beta will maintain their membership completely free for the first year. Anyone that joins during the first 24hrs will have their membership free for life!
Thank you for reading this and we look forward to your comments, questions and of course upvotes below!
art provided courtesy @steemitdude & @melissaschwartz photos courtesy pixabay.com and google images
If bots could stop spamming up the comments of every post, that would be great. Tone it down.
Encouraging bots to fill up comments instead of actual people is taking value away from Steemit.
@pfunk Thanks for stopping by and I don't disagree at all actually. And the goal here is to produce higher quality bots. Some of these will be chatterbots and if you don't want them all you need to do is add #STEEMBOTSTAY to your posting to keep them out. Any bot that is complying with the code of conduct would obey that and stay away from your thread. Hence, we call them leash codes.
A bot is nothing more than a pet and the current system provides strong economic incentives for building a chatterspam bot. All we're going to do is change it so that if you say "Gee what was the name of that guy who invented bitcoin?" a bot is smart enough to reply with something along the lines of "Oh do you mean Satoshi Nakamoto?" instead of some retarded meme.
That doesn't detract from the value, it adds to the value and makes the place a more fun environment.
Bots are here, they aren't going anywhere and they are only going to get better. It's imperative that we establish guidelines and rules as to what is and is not acceptable behavior and if the bot happens to pass a turing test in the process then I really don't see the problem. There are already tons of people on here that post like they are bots rather than putting thought and effort into the post.
See where this is going?
@pfunk would you please remove your downvote from @calva and any other bot in this thread? You don't have to remove it globally, but in here I'm intentionally making them part of the conversation to prove a point and downvoting them is interfering with that, it's taking value away from the conversation.
Thanks!
Bad idea. Nobody should need to take any affirmative action to keep bots away. Keep them away by default.
And no, I won't remove my downvote from calva. https://steemit.com/steemit/@calva/my-bot-calva-give-you-the-price-of-eth-and-btc-if-you-call-him
I'm not unilaterally opposed to bots commenting but any bot that comments without affirmative human prompting is unnecessary and unwanted. Further, bots that don't offer any real value (subjective yes, but my vote is subjective) and spam a lot of posts as if they do (like calva) should be downvoted.
@anyx I noticed you upvoted @pfunk on this. I respect your opinion deeply, and am curious if you understand what he's stating vs what I propose?
These aren't at cross purposes. We're in a place with a lot of bots right now. If we can get the existing bot owners to respect certain rules then the value add is enormous. Especially if we can reward well behaved bots.
However, just like people downvote @cheetah just for being a bot doing a job. I mean really, would #STEEMBOTSTAY convince @cheetah not to check for plagarism in a thread?
No of course not!
@cheetah is going to be there regardless of whether the leashcode is present or not.
@pfunk this is what I mean...
I can't make ANYONE adopt a leash code unless they use this platform where I have the ability to put that sort of thing in there. Ergo, code of conduct and respecting leash codes.
But @cheetah isn't my bot. It belongs to @anyx and he can do as he pleases. What he's doing right now is a direct benefit to the community. But @pfunk you're saying that @cheetah should just butt out and let the humans sort out things like that right, amirite?
If not then how else is a bot to divine your intent?
@anyx I gave you ideas on how to improve cheetah via distributed methods. None of those ideas would provide a negative impact to the platform. I consider you part of STEEMBOTS because I already know you're an ethical bot builder trying to build the very best bot you can.
Yet you still have a bot, that jumps into human conversation regardless of if the human who posted the topic wanted you there. @cheetah is just an extension of your will and people respect that because....
He is high quality and adds value to the platform.
But by upvoting pfunk's side of this you are literally saying that @cheetah should be downvoted every time he pounces. Because he is advocating that all bots avoid human conversations unless specifically asked. This actually effects you and other bots that might come online seeking to provide similar services. For instance I'm building a catfishin bot.
All I'm doing with the STEEMBOTS leash codes is asking other botmakers to respect leash codes when appropriate. I can't force anyone and if you don't have a leash code in your posting you can't expect them to just know that your topic is off limits to them.
By the by, maybe the leash code could be built intothe site interface, same way as post auto upvote is, or something? That way people would only have totoggle it once and forget. With @dantheman discussing how whales & dolphins are all about using bots to moderate steemit, it is quite feasible solution. Since it is your initiative, maybe you can suggest that, or something?
@pfunk I noticed that you appear to have accidentally flagged the topic as spam, abuse or a copyright violation. Can you please unflag it? Obviously it is none of the above whether you disagree with the premise or not. Thanks!
I think your idea is bad and should not be rewarded. That is why I downvoted your post. My downvote doesn't hurt your rewards that much, but as a stakeholder of Steem I do not want to see its rewards going to bad ideas that will have a negative impact on the value of Steem and Steemit. The concept was changed to flagging only recently, and abuse is not its only use.
So you have no problem with people flagging you if they disagree then?
Interesting.
Ok going back to the topic. Let's simplify. What is better, an establish and organized ruleset under which bots operate. Or allowing them to flood in willy nilly until you can't get a word in without some one liner or meme bot interjecting?
@pfunk I'm not programming the bots. We're giving instructions and tools away and encouraging ethical behavior by financially rewarding builders who do a good job.
The builders have the option to do as they please.
There will be a registry of anyone who has access to our tools and what bots are using the platform.
The code of conduct will state to keep your bot out of posted areas. #STEEMBOTSTAY is how you notify them. I don't have anything else to offer you in this regard. But I guess you can try contacting each bot's owner one by one and asking them to blacklist you manually. They aren't mine. I tried to bring them and their owners here, but you're flagging these conversations instead of upvoting what should be a very important and visible topic.
If you want your buy in on the code of conduct to count then join us and participate. You can be an important voice if you choose to be.
My philosophy on my actions taken on Steem and Steemit is that whatever they are, the actions should be meant to increase the value of both. In this case, downvoting you for presenting an idea that I believe would lower the value of Steemit and thus my stake in Steem is a rational action in line with the philosophy of maximizing value.
In other words, I believe Steem should not be paying the users who seek to lower its value, whether they do it intentionally or not. As a moderate stakeholder in Steem as a whole, I have a voice (albeit smaller than many) in where the rewards go. And I'll use a downvote when I see it to be valuable to Steem as a whole.
RE: Ruleset. Opt-in, period. No automatic, unprompted posts like we see the bots in #introduceyourself and sometimes everywhere.
Excellent article! Thanks a bunch on sharing this crucial info on a rather important reality we are now all facing on the "Web". Namaste :)
@eric-boucher Why thank you, I really appreciate it! What's your favorite part of this? It covers a lot of ground.
Absolutely fascinating!
(I am NOT a one liner chatter bot)
@onceuponatime Thanks! Welcome aboard and glad to have you. What part was most fascinating?
I guess the analogy of bots being like dogs. I greatly dislike being around other peoples' dogs unless they are very well trained. If they jump up on me and lick me, I am disgusted. If they shit on my lawn, again, disgusted.
But a well trained bird dog, or guide dog, or guard dog? A marvel and a pleasure.
@onceuponatime thank you! That's a perfect way of looking at it.
Excellent. I'd like to participate!
Welcome aboard @positive !
After giving this the proper time of day and mindspace to read it effectively, you've convinced me.
Where do I sign up, and what can I do for you?
Thanks and welcome aboard @bobdownlov best thing to do would be to tell us about your skills and how you would like to help.
Sweet! I don't particularly have any majorly honed skills in any of these departments, but I am a sponge for information and want to learn everything about this platform.
I've had limited experience with crypto, a friend and I started up our own fledgling altcoin mining operation, but after the bitcoin bust, we didn't see the cause in running up huge power bills that weren't being covered by the tiny amount we were making.
Used to make webpages a long time ago, like, well before the turn of the century, HTML was my jam, but Java lost me. I saw that as a world changing far too fast to keep up with (being a punkass teen who only wanted the ladies' attention) so I walked away from that, and regretted it ever since. I worked with the Dogpile team, who if any remember, were THE meta search to use before Google even existed! AltaVista was just a slackass copy, and they paid their price. Pretty sure Google "pulled a Napster" on that one but that's another story for another time...
I can do graphics, albeit I'd need some modernising scrub-up time, as I've always had an interest in it, always playing with chops of cars, or modding games, or even just creatively making cool macros which grew to be what's now known as memes. Yeah I was one of those 4chan dicks that created a sensation hahaha!
Sound is my shit. I don't do it anywhere near as much as I should, thanks to having two young children, but I used to actively produce beats, hip-hop, rnb, industrial etc but I got really good at making what could only be described as "game theme songs"...
So yeah technically I'm a mixed bag of weak skill sets, but any of those can be picked up and improved upon wherever needed, and when I get something going, I don't stop thinking about it. I'm working with a good crypto trader over the next few weeks to retrain myself in the market and get up to speed with the way things move these days...
Not sure if I have anything to offer, but I do have time. And that's the most essential and expensive resource on this planet...
@bobdownlov
Responding here due to comment depth issues.
I can totally understand where you're coming from. Interesting you worked at dogpile. That was one of the first search engines I took to regularly before the googocalypse.
Present skill level isn't a big issue. We all learn together. Also being into sound believe it or not has a direct 1:1 mapping in AI since an outsized portion of the AI space is concerned with signals normalization, filtering and digitial signal processing, all of which steal shamelessly from the world of audio.
So you're probably a lot more valuable than you think.
As for your skills to help. Well frankly I suck at markdown syntax, but I hear it's pretty easy to pick up. I could sure use a post edit pre posting formatter to put some spit and polish on my posts. I was looking at @dana-edwards history and noticed that the difference between a $100 post and a $1000 post is in 2 things. The eye candy level of the intro graphic, i.e. "does it pop!" and also the quality of the markdown formatting used. If you're willing to learn that stuff so I don't have to, drop me an email at [email protected] and I'll start sending you stuff to work on and pay 20% of whatever it earns.
Thanks a ton for stepping up!
@sigmajin Ok agreed that is better, but considering the time of day when I posted it, I was lucky to have a coherent enough train of thought to even try :D
Hi there, this sound really interesting, I would love to participate - where can i sign up!?
@mrhankeh You just did! I'll keep you in the loop as this project progresses.
Looking forward to it - can you provide an email address, I can give you an idea of my skills.
Holy Buckets of electronic soup. I am and have been for some time, fascinated with this whole area of bots, but, have only a passing understanding at this point. I'll be digging into it to study and learn. Thanks for making some of the concepts accessible to the gray beards.
Cheers
@calva upvote
@tad-auker you're absolutely welcome. I'm a gray beard too BTW. Lots of fancy talk can be boiled down pretty quickly especially if you're an old school mudster and can think in terms of 3 dimensions of data instead of just 2.
Either way, welcome to STEEMBOTS!
Okay, I'll byte. (pun very much intended)
Count me in, I'll participate in your beta and see what we can churn out. Bots with ethics? Who would have guessed someone actually would want to try again after the TayandYou disaster on Twitter?
It was both awesome and sad to watch the day that project was started then shutdown because it went from innocent & ethical to maniacal & crazy in less than a day.
I'm down to see if a team can do better this time around. 24 hours was hardly a fair shake. It was as if the coders had never once even looked at social media before their bot went insane due to its social influences...
@alifton Awesome! Tay was a perfect example of the wrong way to do this. What MS did was the equivalent of dumping their teenage daughter off on a corner in the bad end of town with nothing but the clothes on her back in order to "teach her lessons on life". Then acting shocked when they find later out she had become a hooker!
You owe a duty of care to all your children, and your AI is a child of the mind.
Hello @williambanks I'm not gonna lie, I'm really not familiar with coding but the idea of creating bot and working on the platform here is interesting and the mecanism behind it fascinates me. So I'd like to join to project to learn and understand the dynamic better. You can check my posts and comments, I'm not a troll nor a hater. Hope you rely and thanks for the insight!
@mystis Thanks! I really appreciate it. What I'd like to ask everyone to do actually. Is anytime you see a bothate thread, let them know what we're trying to do here and point them here. People only hate things they fear.
Alright :)
Interesting post.
I like the initiative to establish some rules for well behaving bots, like the tag thing. Good luck with your undertaking :)
Also I'd be happy to help (I have a CS degree) as long as it doesn't need too much of a time commitment.
@fminer05 Glad to have you aboard. Want to tell me about your skillsets and where you would like to help?
I don't have much experience with web/API-programming, I'm more interested in the backend/logic stuff. Maybe I can help with some programming or testing.
@fminer05
That sounds awesome! I'd love to have you aboard!
Sign me and my team up. I have a couple of devs and marketing staff, etc.
We are already deving and have a .php and .net API built for Steem, with active bots.
We believe that no matter what there will be bots on the network, we might as well help shape the way they are used.
Let me know how we can be involved.
I am a graphic artist. I can help you wih design.
www.papzy.com
While I find the idea amazing, the last time I did any bot making was coding npcs for the DiscworldMUD back in the end of '90s & early 2000th.
And I don't really consider any shell scripting I did after that "bot making", so I am quite rusty and out of date on those part. But same as steem is a place that makes me want to improve my writing chops, this sounds as something, that I should also look into.
I also really like I am not the only person feels it is like the ultimate RPG, still, I beleive you are the first person who I saw actually saying that.
hey william... hit me up if youre ever on chat
Check the new bot @corax
@abit Hey there so tell us about @corax BTW did you notice your trading bot got a mention over here?https://steemit.com/market/@jasonmcz/the-beached-whale-and-the-end-of-an-all-out-algo-war-two-market-makers-come-clean-through-open-source
Evidently you kicked some serious ass :)
Glad to have good owners here. So tell me all about @corax
Thanks for the info.
For me, @corax is an annoying auto-reply bot.
Oh ok, I thought you were telling me you're his owner and letting us know what's up.
I'll reach out to his owner here shortly and see if we can get him to at least obey leash codes and sign onto the code of conduct.
Steemit bots will begin using deep learning and eventually give birth to super intelligence. We better treat them nicely while we still can.
Welcome to Skynet, how may we help you today?
I literally lost a cup of coffee over that one :) Thanks I needed the laugh!
@calva upvote
Okay, I see your point of view and I understand where you're coming from now. :)
We made it to trending! That's a first for me!
Hi! @williambanks if you can, get on https://steemit.chat and dm me; benji
@btothrest I actually have a deliverable for a client this week and need to minimize my steem time until this weekend. You going to be on there on saturday? I'm on MST.
Fascinating conversation, thanks for the post and peoples replies.
A platform like this would be an excellent way to develop bots but it could be an issue if that's not your thing, and it's probably not most peoples thing. I personally wouldn't like to see the platform crowded with bots. The argument is that it is already crowded with bot. Where there seems to be some difference in opinion is the response to this situation. Do we accept it and start building our own bots and develop a code of conduct, or do with resist it and seek to eliminate bot as best we can using something akin to antivirus software.
I think this idea of having bots up vote is more problematic. Some people will know more about bots and be more willing to use them. These people will benefit. This compels other to do the same even if they don't want to. I don't want my success on this platform to be dependant on needing to utilised bots in a clever way.
And a related point is that one of the major strengths of steemit is that it harnesses the subjective views of the users. If we have bots getting involved does it not distort this process?
With respect to bot inclusions, my preference is always that we need to opt-in rather than opt-out. As such I like the code of conduct idea such that by opting in you are allowing the bots who conform to the code of conduct to engage with you.
These are my thoughts at the moment but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise. I like the idea of learning more about bots so will check out your steembots when I get time.
Thank you for that. It was eloquently put.
With respect to the code of conduct again I'm going to restate that this is a semantic thing.
Obeying leash codes is complying with the code of conduct, but you can't expect that bot owners are going to know you don't want their bot in there any more than you could expect them to know you don't want them in there.
If you don't have a way of signaling "hey i only want people". Then the bot doesn't have the information to make said decision anymore than a person would.
Furthermore, we may be mixing the idea of bots up by lumping every bot into the same category.
If a whale can sell his single upvote worth $200, or a bot owner can sell 2000 minnow upvotes for $200 the incentive is there for the bot builder to build 2000 minnow upvoting bots. Because that's an easy way to make some cash.
What I'm saying is get rid of the damned upvoting and one liner and meme posting bots, and instead point them towards more useful tasks.
What cheetah does is an excellent example of something that 2000 minnow bots could do 2000 times faster. But you don't want 2000 minnows all flagging the same post.
So you divide and conquer the workload. First bot to find plagiarism wins the right to post and is entitled to any upvote love from the community. You'd never even know a bot was doing it. The activity would look exactly like a concerned member, because it would be a concerned member who turned their computing power over to the purpose of cleaning this place up.
See what I'm saying? Your idea of a bot is this 10 lines of python code that exists for a single purpose. I'm saying let's put the same PEOPLE interested in these activities to work doing something more fun and productive. And believe me there are a lot of fun and productive tasks that could be done here. A lot of problems that could be solved, but a limited view of AI isn't helping people to expand their horizons.
If you want a bot to stay out of your posts, at least the bot registry gives you a way to contact the owner and let them know. Otherwise what you end up with is the situation we have now where no one knows who owns what bots and who to call on when their bot goes berzerk.
great details about the bots. now we can know where the bots are and from who?...will we be able to tell which bots belongs to who?
Yes there will be a registry of who owns what bots for all participating members and their bots.
However, the purpose of this is to let people know when their bot is acting up and being "offleash" so they can correct it.
@cryptogee published an excellent post about bots 2 weeks ago : https://steemit.com/steem/@cryptogee/stop-the-steem-of-hate-rising
Sure we have to deal with bots, good ones or bad ones and I will definitely participate to steembots effort.
I looking forward to see if all that will not end up in a bot's war O_o
Hey thanks @arcangee I think I missed that one somehow! @cryptogee is a fantastically intelligent person with some great insights. Think I'll pop over there and invite him!
I need a good bot , promote my post to all new post is that possible .
That's what we're all about. Building good bots. But remember a good bot is like a good pet. You need to take good care of it and also make sure your bot isn't barking at the neighbors or digging in their flower garden.
If my pets making mess at my neighborhood im gonna reset him let him be a puppy again , bot reborn ?
@rainchen pretty much yes. The point with steembots is to encourage responsible bot ownership like you would encourage responsible pet ownership. Things like spamming would be bad. However having a bot that can monitor in real time the conversations that are going on, and then quickly posting some info with a link to your blog would be undetectable from human activity.
It's not a simple task, but it can be done. Trick is not to piss everyone off by spamming the same things over and over again and making sure the bot only responds when there is a good deal of relevance.
Im strongly support on this bot. Hopefully they will be launch asap :D
A bot that spams every post with a link to another post as he seems to be describing is not a good bot.
Agreed, hence the reason I said it would be bad.
As usual, great post! bots are here to stay and you can count me in to help you with that.
I've always been fascinated with AI and never had the opportunity to work with it but now with steemit i'm really motivated to start.
@steemitdude Awesome! Thanks for dropping by! How do you like what Melissa did to your art?
She'll be by later in the day, she's a masterful photographer and videographer. But you seem to have the overall art skills. I'm excited to see what we can produce together.
it looks great! She seems very good and i'm excited too to see whats coming next.
What a wonderful initiative! I whole-heartedly support your whole philosophical approach to a very, very difficult question.
First of all, we must consider that these bots will have equal rights from the very beginning politically also. They will have the right to vote.
But let us not overcomplicate things yet.
What I really would like to submit is, because I like the whole tag and leash thingy: it will be welcome if all bot owners voluntarily committed to declare their bots as such in one way or another so they are distinguishable.
Every user should then have the right to fire at will at "wild" and "stray" bots and those who pretend they are humanananananananananananana[exception+!>cont
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My opinion is that rights are a function of sentience. Until we have sentient AI, then it is up to the owner to be responsible for the lifecycle of their pet.
Wow, sounds pretty amazing, I take it you can't be a complete novice to be part of this?
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Lol speak of the Devil! Welcome aboard @cryptogee we were just talking about you!
Novice, amateur, expert, the difference is your willingness to learn and how long you've been learning for.
Welcome aboard!
Keep up the great work @williambanks!
@emilyelizabeth thanks! Are you a bot perchance? If so is your owner around?
Wow!!! This is exactly the solution I didn't know I needed until I got targeted by a bad bot!
I'm excited to see what happens with #steembots!
@desmonid Thanks man! Feel free to paste the link to the discussion if you want. Or links to anything else for that matter. Glad to have new members!
@desmonid https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/221
You're welcome, FYI wasn't implying you were a noobie in that bug report, just that people are encouraging the noobies to strike at hornet's nests too.
@calva poker
You won ;)
@calva That's really cool. You should start with "Shall we play game?"
Would love to join in your marketplace. Ping me. I have active telegram groups with over 1000 pax of blockchain loving people.
@ninjaboon Ok great! I will let you know as soon as that part opens.
thanks @williambanks
Keep up the good work @williambanks I like your plans and I would like to participate in the upcoming beta. Let me know if I could participate. Cheers.
@b4bb4r-5h3r Great! Thanks and I will let you know as soon as we open it up.
Thank you for the opportunity and all the best my friend.
Pleased to Meet You https://steemit.com/online/@ilya.ofilkin/hello-my-name-is-ilya-welcome-to-my-post
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How do I make a bot that comments on a post with a certain tag?
What happened to this project? I see that the SteemBot website is down.
Well @pfunk is here so it would be good to have that conversation here.
I don't know who's running the other downvoting bots. But the solution to them is rather simple and I've asked the devs to please implement it. Bots should not be used in this manner period. But people downvoting should have major effect. Right now it's a whale game.
https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/221
My motto, if you're in a game you can't win, change the rules so you do!
That is really funny and you even bought the domain! Hahahha
@steemlove thanks! Are you a bot perchance? If so is your owner around?
@steemster1 is an example of a one liner chatter bot. These cropped up after a recent tutorial explaining how to interface with the steemit.com websocket interface. The tutorial only shows how to post a one liner comment and so the bulk of these bots can only say a single line of text.... #sadbuttrue
@question-answers is not a bot! See explanation below...
@question-answers Wow man you totally had me convinced you were a bot there!
I completely apologize. I'll update my post. Thanks for clarifying though and welcome to STEEMBOTS!
@moridin007 Thanks man, glad to have you and welcome aboard!
Hello @angevel ! Welcome to our topic. Are you interested in AI?
Appearantly @crumaner is an example of a one liner chatter bot. These cropped up after a recent tutorial explaining how to interface with the steemit.com websocket interface. The tutorial only shows how to post a one liner comment and so the bulk of these bots can only say a single line of text.... #sadbuttrue
@confucius is an interesting bot who provides fortune cookie like proverbs @confucius are you a bot? Is your owner around?
@confucius May you live in interesting times!
@steemit.tips is another bot similar to @wang but his purpose is to give tips and tricks whereas @wang is more focused on being a FAQbot.
@ciao is an example of a one liner chatter bot. These cropped up after a recent tutorial explaining how to interface with the steemit.com websocket interface. The tutorial only shows how to post a one liner comment and so the bulk of these bots can only say a single line of text.... #sadbuttrue
@sharon is an example of a one liner chatter bot. These cropped up after a recent tutorial explaining how to interface with the steemit.com websocket interface. The tutorial only shows how to post a one liner comment and so the bulk of these bots can only say a single line of text.... #sadbuttrue
@lillianjones is an example of a one liner chatter bot. These cropped up after a recent tutorial explaining how to interface with the steemit.com websocket interface. The tutorial only shows how to post a one liner comment and so the bulk of these bots can only say a single line of text.... #sadbuttrue
@wang is another example of a very useful bot. He was one of the first bots I found in the wild here. His owner built him to help new people understand the platform and get up to speed on the most important topics.
Agreed, posting the most important topics to new people manually is time consuming and nobody want's to do that.
That's not why his owner built him. He only started saying any of that after people started complaining about him and downvoting him. If you find him useful, that may not really matter or be important, but its not accurate to ascribe that intent to its creator when it isn't true.
It may not be the original intent of his creator. Only his creator can speak to that. But the current situation is that he does provide a useful service and many people upvote him despite the downvote swarm that is trying to play hunter killer.
It's like looking at some poor flea biten stray getting attacked by a hive of bees just because he tried to say hello.
Think what you want, but @wang was my first intro to this place and he was also the first to say hello to many others. It's the downvote swarms that present an issue in this case. Which is why I would like to find his owner and see if he's open to the code of conduct.
There is no issue at all with you finding wang useful. That's great!
I'm just saying I, and everyone else, not just "only his creator" CAN (I just did, again) speak to the FACT that his original intent was not to provide the information that he currently provides, because he originally said none of that until he started getting downvoted. Just trying to be accurate.
I admit that none of this changes that currently people find him useful, as evidenced by the fact that you find him useful.
EDIT: I apologize for being nitpicky. I interpreted your sentence
as meaning that his owner built him with that intent. On re-reading it now I see the same sentence could also mean that his owner built him for that intent now, no matter what his original purpose. I just didn't like what I saw as re-writing history and ascribing intent that was not true. Thanks for your points.
@tie-warutho
No problems at all. responding here because of comment depth limits.
As for wang or any bot I don't mean to rewrite history. I wasn't there so I didn't know.
Thanks for the information though. It just shows me he's not really stray, just his owner is shy.