I spent the entire day yesterday trying to figure out what's going on with the @andrianna account and here are my findings. Like @sherlockholmes, I am only going to list facts, nothing else. No opinons.
Fact #1:
I Skyped with Andrianna this morning. She is the same person in her photos and videos and has the same voice. She spoke in Russian, and therefore she had to speak Russian, then use a translation device to put words into English. When I talked to her in English, she had no English comprehension. She talked in Russian, I talked in English. We could not understand words. However, I could tell it was a natural conversation, meaning, she had normal way of interacting. It was awkward, and it also confirms that she can't understand verbal English. She is translating her Russian into English for her posts.
I also saw her in the Skype video. She's the same person.
Fact #2:
She did not know that someone else had created another account, @andriannaa (notice the two letter 'a'). I asked her many times yesterday and today if she created another account. Her answer yesterday and today was "No." We chatted in text today after Skyping, and I informed her that an account, @andriannaa was posting her same content.
She was shocked to learn that another account had popped up that is using her photos, and she also reacted like a normal person. She had no idea this was going on, and so she asked me what to do. I told her she can post the links in steemcleaners-linkdrop. She was obviously very upset as well as mad that her photos are being used on an account she did not create.
Fact #3:
After I gave her the link to the @andriannaa (fake account), she flagged it on her own. I did not tell her to do this. From this we can gather that the @andriannaa account is being run by someone else, not @andrianna. We can also gather that because she is flagging it, that she is not running this @andriannaa account. We can gather that a scammer is impersonating @andriannaa. Also the person who comments from the @andriannaa account has different sentence structure. It's clearly a different person because they are begging for upvotes constantly.
Fact #4:
She was very upset to learn that someone else had created the @andriannaa account. Her reaction was consistent with a normal reaction when you learn that someone else is profiting from your work without your knowledge.
I don't work for Steemcleaners or @cheetah or have any real power to get someone off the blacklist, however, I will be flagging the fake @andriannaa account, because @andrianna did not create it, and it is plagiarizing her work on this platform. That is all I know.
Andrianna is a real person, and is the same person in her video, as I Skyped with her today.
The people behind the fake @andriannaa account are clearly trying to profit from her artwork and are likely scammers.
Thank you very much for your support!
I really respect you!
And I'm very pleased!
keep spirit and stronger dear @andrianna.
I always support you dear
Stellabelle in action, helping the community and making Steem great!!!
If you and her will need any translation english/russian - I'm ready to do it. I hope real @andrianna will be removed from black list.
I can take a guess as to his did this.... hopefully just hopefully it isn't him. If it is him, his name starts with an @n.......
can anyone else guess??
who?
I don't want to say because at this point it just seems like his M.O., @stellabelle
@berniesanders knows him well. But again, this is just a similarity, so it could be anyone, and that is why I don't want to say. I would feel bad to accuse and then be wrong.
judging from the way that the fake andriannaa speaks, it looks foreign, like not a native English speaker.
pattern match to Indonesian scammers
well then that eliminates who I had in mind.
@stellabelle I normally would not solicit but this is not for me, this is for a man that badly needs an operation. I truly believe his situation to be real and dire. I have sent him a few bucks as well as re-steemed, and up voted. I plan to send him a few more bucks and would like to see if you would at least visit his page and up vote. It would be extremely kind of you to do so. Thank you.
Here is his page..... @cryptopie
I'm just hoping it's not him, because that would just make this whole mess that much more of a mess...
Mess is the right word. I've read this girl's name in three posts and it's been a different crazy problem each time. It got too long and complicated for me to even keep up with and I could tell other were already watching.
Someone hates her and I feel sad. So glad to are on this @stellabelle. Taking so much time and effort was a huge benefit to everyone. This is the kind of thing that makes me feel safe here when you big guys step in.
quite honestly, it was driving me mad not knowing the truth of what was going on.....but the fact that she reached out wanting to Skype with me this morning, well, that fits in with someone who really wants help. She already had a Skype account too.....she didn't create a new one for this.
I just learned about her plea yesterday; and, truly get your yen to get to the bottom of this. However, you're the one actually doing something about it.
Btw, I would up vote your post, but I learned yesterday by trial and error that zero voting power can work against the till. So, again, thanks for your efforts!
That skype info is in her favor. This is why steemit works - because you have time and knowledge to at least get this going. Us noobs are just hoping things are going to be ok.
I feel so relieved to be here. I'm getting killed in fb groups the last week or two. It might be the wild, wild west in here but at least you big guys go after the bad guys. All my alt places and good fb groups are being attacked by shills causing havoc right now.
great post and information thank you for sharing.
Thanks for info
Interesting. Well it's good people do their research like this, hopefully it'll help in putting fake adriannaa down and have an effect on people blaming adrianna as it seems she's not fake.
Thank you for taking care of our community. It is good to see we are looking out for each other. Steem the Dream!
we are all part of a decentralized autonomous organization. We all have to do work to make it better.
Well said. We all have a part to play.
You are always at forefront of fighting injustice and theft of identity @stellabelle. This goes to show how passionate you love this program I personally hold in high esteem. Your stance on justice is one of the core reasons Steemit is still standing tall today. I only pray you are divinely rewarded. Thanks and thanks very much for taking your precious time to trace this fraudster out.
@eurogee
I just wish and pray that more @stellabelle would be here, to fight for justice for the love of steemit. May God be with them both with @andrianna
Great post. thank you for giving information @stellabelle
Great job you did
I hope the culprit gets down
@stellabelle is in the case! It is good to get this confirmation, I hope this helps to lift the ban. I have been following this case ( like a lot of other steemians) with great interest. More and more it looks like @andrianna is the victim of a scam and has done nothing wrong. Upvoted for exceptional detective skills :) Stellabelle Holmes.
it does certainly appear that she is a victim in this.....and the language barrier is adding a layer of complexity. She has to translate everything she says from Russian into English, so the English stuff she writes doesn't look like a native speaker. I think this has made this even more complex.
i am bit confused ???
Good for you, for poking into this... the whole @andrianna thing is just disturbing, all around... and the waters seem very muddy. I still don't fully understand what's going on... and when we stick purely to FACTS as you've done here, we still only have little bits and pieces.
she said that she bought her original account......from a scammer.
It seems like we have another detective on steemit. Great Job @stellabelle with doing some cool nifty things to try and identify whether or not this is the real Andrianna.
Why is the real @andrianna blacklisted by cheetah? Does it think she is a fake user. I guess we need someone like @pfunk to see this so he is able to remove her from the blacklist (I think he can do that). It seems like she has been trying to reach out and confirm her identity and it has additionally been proven with your interaction with her.
Well at least we have got another plagiarist off the site who was reaping the rewards pool and devaluing the site.
@pfunk was the one who authorized the ban, and so should be the one to remove it if that's the decision. There's still some investigation going on, but I'm hoping it'll all resolve soon. (I've had plenty of people contacting me about it -- but I still don't have the full story!)
I am happy to see this post and there are still people who do such negative things, I really hope for all positive and not harm others ....
Facts are stubborn things, and even sophisticated falsification is unable to alter the state of facts and evidence. Dear @stellabelle, your action deserves respect!
OMG! All this also happened here in steemit community. This is unfair, please do some things so that the no other people will victimise in future. You are so powerful mentally and physically so please caught the offender. Wish you good luck good health and happiness friend, have an wonderful time.
nice post
Whoa, good work! The real @andrianna is a supremely talented artist, so I imagine it's easy for us to spot her imposter, but it's hard to imagine why she would've been penalized in any way. I'm really impressed that her Steemit sister came to the rescue on this occasion. You rock @stellabelle.
Nice !!
After @sherlockholmes, you are truly doing a nice job identifying this fake accounts
You will make a good detective
Good people are always the victim of activities of these bad people.
I hope we get rid of these crazy people plagiarizing accounts
I've followed @andrianna since just after joined steemit and she is a very talented artist. it's a shame that she has had so many problems and hope she is taken off the black list as soon as possible. Now off to flag yhe fake account.
@stellabelle your efforts have made many people to differentiate between real and fake accounts with a little change of spelling .So these tricks can be recognised now just because of your post .keep it up to spread awareness .
I've seen people do the same with some of the popular accounts here. There's one account that's only one letter away from Jerry Banfield' account. The fake one has 2 n's instead of one. Usually the fake ones are similar enough so the user name looks the same but has a double letter somewhere.
I've seen some other like this but the exact details on which accounts have near duplicates elude me at the moment.
That's nice of you to help people out like you do. I'm giving this post an upvote once I get home to my pc (mobile app giving me an error every time I try to vote on a post).
"If the great Sherlock Holmes can do it, then... you give me hope."
You've done a great job!
Sleek Agency Work @stellabelle..
This evil scammers are all over the globe and i wish something come to cull them all off to planet Venus or maybe Pluto where their asses Freezes to Oblivion...
Clearly she is a victim of spam we can flag the other I'd work so it can't get any profit
Wow.. This is great news, cuddos to you for noticing this and following it up.. You are a very good person, @andriannaa will be flagged, who ever it is must be disconnected..
You & @sherlockholmes have a great eye for fakes!
@stellabelle Thank-you very much for offering this helpful insight. Perhaps, her lack of English skills explains her retisence to communicate in too much detail.
Of course, we couldn’t expect a Skype with the second ‘a’ owner. Or could we?
I have little doubt that the single ‘a’ blogger is above board. Flagging her own site would cost her.
With that said, does this mean the faux account is powering down funds, which are actually ‘hers’, as she remains on the blacklist? Iff so, it's unfortunate the faux account can’t be frozen until the matter is resolved.
Great post!
Peace.
SMH..... there should be a better way just to shut them down completely and quick! Super nice of you to keep an eye out for all of us, I think it's in all our best interest to do the same!
Thank you for your efforts to help with this case.
terrible when someone steals your identity and ruins everything. Good work @stellabelle
Hi Stellabelle
I follow Adrianne and want to see her do well.
But there is really only one solid way to clear this up, and that hasn't been done yet as far as I know.
What I want to see is realtime video footage of her painting or drawing.
That is because she looks like a model (that is intended as a compliment), and we just see her holding up the completed artworks. We don't know for sure it's her painting them.
I know this is pretty harsh, but she could potentially become very popular on Steemit, and I am absolutely certain there are already several bigtime scams that are not being called out.
Privately they are being spoken of, but publicly nobody is going to mention them. And I'm not going to either because I've seen what happens to people who do!
There are smalltime scams like this one I've linked to below all over the place, but there are also ones going right up to high places too. (no I'm not going to link to them) https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@hpylife/hello-steemit-let-me-introduce-myself#
As soon as I see video of Adrianne drawing or painting I'll start upvoting her posts.
I agree with this, this will definitely be a very strong evidence for Andrianna if she does a painting/drawing live stream.
Yes, and so far nothing has been posted...
People these days dont want to work. They just want to benefit from other people's work. This is so sad. May they be brought to justice.
Hi @stellabelle, I messaged you something on steemit.chat. Kindly check it out. Thanks! 😉
It is just so sick that some people are just like parasites feeding off from other persons hardwork. The whole problem with this is lack of total self belief on what one is capable of doing hence the result in becoming a wannabe.
It is just a pity, time spent in living someone's life could be spent in developing oneself and adding real value. Thanks maam for t your hard work in this platform. You are highly respected.
Yes, it is a crisis of the consumer mind. The creator mind needs to make a comeback. I made this shift in my own mind......as I was not always thinking I deserved to be a creator. Truth is, everyone does. That is what people don't know.
yes indeed. every one have one point in time you feel you dont deserve to be this or you cant be that person you want to be. It is the obvious sign of identity crisis. But what differential one from others is your decision to take a step, come out and find yourself.
Only then will people understand that we are more than we see ourselves.
@stellabelle please vote my post @ulie
I have been following this how debacle closely - and I truly believe @adrianna is the real deal. A sweet girl who can't speak much English. I have full confidence that the Steemit community will get to the bottom of this, and hopefully soon
This is really sad, all the attention given to a bunch of scammers while artists who's only goal is to share their art are being completely ignored. Steem became a place of drama lovers.
I hope that her name will be removed from cheatah blacklist
she is a great person
After reading this story, I'm wondering how can we keep a track of other people who are stealing our work and posting here? The same could have been happened to me or to someone else and if, for instance, people start flagging the original creator, how would it be reversed? May be there are some solutions available but I am not aware of them.