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RE: There's absolutely nothing wrong...

in #itsokaytobewhite5 years ago (edited)

IFF you think Booing is not Freedom of Expression than you Think that Booing is not Freedom of Expression. You Think That Someone Expressing themselves by Shouting is not protected speech, it should be stifled, censored and suppressed, and at least it should be ridiculed as Idiotic Moo Cow behavior.

IFF you think booing is Freedom of Expression then You're An Idiot Moo Cow Equivalent.

Ultimately.
Moooo.

(if you didn't get it, you make a value judgement about what is and isn't Freedom of Expression)

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A brief chuckle, or booing or clapping can be an expression of your general agreement or disagreement.

However, when noise is generated that indiscriminately silences (CENSORS) another's free speech, it is a violation of the other person's free speech ("your freedom to swing your arms ends at my face").

To attempt to argue that booing is more important (to protect) than actual speech is absurd. One person can boo as long as the other person still has a chance to speak (equal time principle).

A reasonable (civil) person would simply leave the room (or click the "mute button") when they've decided to reject a person's viewpoint wholesale.

Do you also believe "disturbing the peace" (midnight road construction as performance art for example) is sacrosanct free speech?

...you cannot stop someone from writing by writing everywhere and anywhere that they suck.

Air-horning someone in person is the equivalent of black-marking over all of their written words.

Sure the words are still technically on the page, but nobody can read them.

Hello @baah,
I edited my comment again after having read all of your exchanges wit @logiczombie.

so... I am leaving without my former question.

What is your conscious intention when you downvote someone?

Nice job dodging the question. You should be a politician.

What is your conscious intention when you downvote someone?

Yeah, freedom of expression for general disagreement, not strong hatred.

Well stated.

That's an excellent distinction between Civil-Protest and HARASSMENT/CENSORSHIP.

If I hate my neighbor (and everything they stand for), is it an exercise of my free-speech to follow them around the city with my air-horn, honking at them any time the open their mouth?

If I hate my neighbor (and everything they stand for), is it an exercise of my free-speech to follow them around the city with my air-horn, honking at them any time the open their mouth?

Are you trying to suggest that harassing someone is Censorship now?

I'm suggesting that harassment is functionally-indistinguishable from censorship.

If you disagree, please present your preferred definitions of "harassment" and "censorship".

I never suggested that people harass or disturb others and do so because it's their freedom of expression,

Well, thanks for clearing that up.

Do you personally think it's possible to harass someone with downvotes?

Censorship is the act of Suppressing or Stopping someone from expressing themselves.

Downvoting someone into negative rep clearly SUPPRESSES them from expressing themselves (all of their posts are automatically hidden, which is another way of saying "suppressed").

Booing someone all over town is not Censorship, as even then the person can still express themselves WHILE you harass them.

How? How can someone "still express themselves" over the sound of an air-horn blast?

—not free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought that we hate."

I agree. We must let those we hate express their views with their words (which is how you most effectively communicate your thoughts and intentions and beliefs).

If you don't like what someone says, use the "mute" button or walk away.

And or blog about how much you hate them and why (which will likely only draw more attention (notoriety) to the person you are hating). I mean, for example, Ben Shapiro wasn't widely known until he got CENSORED (shouted down) by the SJWs.

Was he physically assaulted?

booing doesn't violate the actual speech,

Extended booing (and air-horns) effectively CENSORS the person speaking (using actual words).

By saying you want to protect "both", you're essentially endorsing CENSORSHIP/HARASSMENT.