Thanks @freedomvigilante. Let me clarify, based on your reaction:
- I am not predicting that the Catalonian independence movement will succeed in obtaining secession (as far as "allowing" such secession to happen - of course not! My post was meant to highlight the injustice to which the central government is resorting in order to not allow this to happen
- I am not claiming that Catalonian secession is legal under Spanish law (I don't know Spanish law well enough to litigate that)
What I AM saying is that Catalonia has a moral right to secede. As both a German and a US citizen, I would grant the same right to Bavaria and California (since you ask). As a Libertarian, I believe that coercion (application of violence) is not justified unless that is in self defense. The Catalonian people are engaged in a peaceful referendum, and the only violence I see reported is that of the central Spanish security forces (but I am sure there are some violent Catalonian independence supporters as well, which I would condemn). If 80% of the non-Catalan Spaniards agree that "Catalonia is Spain", and 80% of the Catalonians agree that it isn't, how is this not an occupation?
In short I am not making a positive statement (what will happen) but a normative one (what should happen)
Appreciate the dialogue though, so I would welcome your reply.
It is self-defense, if someone comes to you to steal your land you have the right of self-defense to prevent him to steal your land.
That is what the left fascists secessionist politicians from Catalonia are doing, stealing the land of Spain from the rest of Spaniards.
It is fine if you "allow" Baviera or California to seceded but the majority of Germans and US Citizens, and their government will not allow it.
So secession should not happen and it will not happen.