The “movement,” as it were, is indeed riddled with collectivists. And those of the worst persuasion. Those who vehemently declare themselves to be individualists while ranting all sorts of rubbish to the contrary. Actually, Intend to avoid anyone who talks about “the movement.” They often do so to shame dissenters, ironically. Bro! Stop being so DIVISIVE! You’re hurting the MOVEMENT!
More hive mind bullshit.
I can’t stand Lauren Southern, and her arguments about borders are not based on logic but more of an attempt to persuade with her own brand of “practicality.” I do appreciate your critique of Larken’s approach, though, and think some of the points you make are definitely valid regarding the dopey nature of the crowd insofar as many of them seem to be just waiting for Pavlovian cues.
I saw Larken’s intro. I don’t know his history with Southern, but it definitely could have been a little less football-match-y, even though I do agree with him. Then again, Southern is going to use every cheap trick in the book, so I can kind of understand coming out guns blazing...
Lauren's one of those people who make me wonder who really pays the bills. Just something about her. Whether I agree with her or not.
Indeed.
https://steemit.com/voluntaryism/@mielia/additional-viewpoints-perspectives-on-open-state-borders-debate-between-larken-and-lauren-at-anarchapulco2018
I wrote an article about the talk two weeks ago. My longest so far. Quasi another kind of introduction post.
After I heard Lauren introduce herself in a recent talk as "nationalist" (and no further words), I don't know if there even is anything fundamentally libertarian in her left.
She seems to be searching for her way recently. A bit paradoxically to go on a tour then but whatever.
Let her be and go. I feel no hate or anything.
Larken's intro by the way was very harsh (in general and in comparison to afterwards). He wasn't harsh at all or very seldomly later on. I'm not entirely sure but I believe statist was nearly never used afterwards. Purist you kind find in Laurens sentences at some points up to three times.